I think it’s time to revive this thread and give it a bump. There’s a lot of new members recently and we’re seeing a few new sources as well.
I give the following rundown of a former UGL that was here, TGI, as a cautionary tale for both members and sources....
TGI apparently had a wife and two daughters. He was supposedly going thru a mid-life rut when it was his wife who suggested doing something different to break out of the rut. Along sprang TGI as an underground steroid lab. He started here in August ridiculously slow. His original product list looked like one of our own personal use inventories. He had really good communication skills and developed a repoire with a lot of guys here. It was weird. Like a cult. It took until October to talk him into testing his products. As soon as he did, his business took off.
He must have seen the value of testing because he continued to send samples off. Were they always good? Nope. But he adjusted his prices when they were miss-dosed. Early on, he had EQ that was underdosed and he marked the price down accordingly. He got very popular and the thread became kind of a hangout. It was constant talking - not even relating to the lab, the products, or even lifting. Just guys shooting the shit. Page after page of conversation. If you didn’t follow daily, it was impossible to keep up. Was it intentional? Or was it camaraderie? Friendship? That will always be open to debate. The occasional negative comments were quickly discredited by loyal customers and then buried by pages of conversation on all manner of topics. TGI must have felt like a god. Extreme popularity.
That’s when it began to turn. He got weird. You were either with him or against him. @BrianNOLA was a member here and a big gym/street reseller. He would take advantage of the testing credits cause it led to $200 plus lab results that he could show his customers. Taking $30 vials and getting $50-$60. Well he sent Deca to Jano that was supposed to be 300 mg/ml and results were 200 mg/ml. Brian sat on the results because he wasn’t sure what to do with them. They finally got out, TGI was pissed, cursed out Brian, got mad at Jano and another member submitted a sample from the same batch to Weights&Measures (no longer around) and the results were supposedly 400 mg/ml. I honestly forget and the whole thing was buried. Sadly, as a side story, BrianNOLA reportedly later passed away, a victim of a drug overdose.
Then came the big drama. TGI was convinced that the older vets came into his thread to beat his business down because it was competing too much with Stanny. He was also convinced that the older vets, Stanny, and even Millard were moving rec drugs behind the scenes here. Just bizarre accusations that were never proven. Unrelated, he got into a full out argument with a member @moreFyeah who he considered to be trolling his thread. The guy ended up getting banned from MESO but he sent emails about a few of the loyal members. Kind of funny. like an email reporting a member anonymously to WADA. But kind of serious because he also sent emails to LE too. Not an outright doxxing but def crossed lines. Wickr chats happened and supposedly TGI was seriously willing to pay a member here to track down @moreFyeah and give him a beat-down. Word got out and TGI left MESO and moved to discord.
That fractured a divide between members here. Some left and never returned, preferring discord. Some stayed here at MESO. I think that left an emptiness here, guys that knew and understood MESO were no longer around. New members quickly joined with no “hazing” or appreciation for why MESO does what it does. In my opinion, MESO got kinder, gentler, and softer with sources.
Back to the TGI story kind of post-MESO. Paranoid power thoughts lead to bad decisions so on a weekday morning in mid-November, local sheriffs reported to a 911 call reporting gunshots from inside the house at 7:00-7:30 am. The same time kids are waiting for their school buses. Any time it’s a report inside the house, the sheriffs are obligated to make sure nobody got shot. That’s how they stumbled upon 40 kilos of raws, $13,000 in cash, and a small steroid lab setup in a spare bedroom of the house. DEA was called in. Mom and Dad were both charged for the 40 kilos, TGI was charged with the weapons, oh and morning intoxication. Mom was also charged with resisting arrest because she met the sheriffs outside and tried to prevent them from entering until the taser took her out.
Parole was set at $500,000 each and she met bail in time to be home for Christmas. TGI spent over a year in County before posting bail. In retrospect maybe if he stayed there it would change the final sad chapter of the story and would have spared his wife’s life. While on parole, they were out at a bar, left after a couple drinks and TGI took a curve on his bike too fast. There was a heavy equipment trailer parked along the road, he tried to correct his swerve but instead collided with a guide-wire for the telephone pole. Police arrived. Wife was pronounced dead. Add voluntary manslaughter to the list of charges that he’s going to have to eventually face.
From the highest of highs to the lowest of lows. These guys aren’t all bad but a lot of them definitely make bad life decisions. Is it money? Fame? Who knows. It’s apparently hard to stay grounded though. Sourcing claimed a life, wrecked a family, and TGI will be sent on a long vacation eventually. It’s depressing to even think about all that. That’s the dark side to this little hobby that we all enjoy so much.
We need to use caution because THIS is what we don’t always see. It’s the effects of PEDs being illegal. Being sold over the anonymity of the internet and the de facto email based black market. These are things that don’t happen to the real life salesmen that you commonly deal with. You unfortunately have no idea who you transact with and how the story really goes. It’s another reason why we always need to be hard on the sources ourselves. There is no one else looking out for us!
