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superman15

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im just a newbie tryin to get some information. I am just curious, for example, why couldnt you just do 4 weeks of dbol and not use injections. Supposebly methyl-1-test triggers the same receptors as dbol, so why couldnt you just do a dbol cycle. or is it bad to do just a m-1t cycle by itself? why?
 
So now you're a newbie? What happened to the guy who had done so much research as of 4 days ago?

Do a quick search. There are at least 10 threads on this already.
 
its harder to keep gains from oral only cycles. plus they're tough on the liver. a d-bol only cycle wont yield much in gains...not permanent atleast. it'll be mostly water, and you'll lose that water once you come off. once you come off, you'll be shut down. if you're going to be shut down, you need to go through recovery. if you're going to go through recovery...might a well make the most of the cycle and use injectables and run it for 10 weeks.

thats about that:).

have a nice day
 
I not going to flame you for really not knowing why an oral only cycle is bad. However, with as much research as you claim to have done this is one of the simplest questions to have answered opn your own. With that being said, the first cycle I ever did (2.5 years ago) was a D-Bol only cycle with only 150 tabs for 5 weeks. I was scared of needles and a steroid rookie. I used a pyramid type dosing cycle (Hey I was new and didn't know better) starting with two tabs ED and increasing every week (3ED the next, then 5ED for two weeks and going back down). I even had some left over. Anyways, I ate like a pig trained like an animal and made fantastic strength gains and put on like 35 pounds. After the cycle I kept damn near all the strength and lost probably 8-10 pounds. The bloat is killer but you feel like a star. Thats just my experience and I'm sure others with have their own opinion. But build the knowledge base and experiment bro everyone's a little different. Just don't go stupid....you are manipulating the only body you have in this lifetime.
 
Great post Joe. I'm giving you an A+ for continued excellence.

Have a nice day
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joe shmoe said:
its harder to keep gains from oral only cycles. plus they're tough on the liver. a d-bol only cycle wont yield much in gains...not permanent atleast. it'll be mostly water, and you'll lose that water once you come off. once you come off, you'll be shut down. if you're going to be shut down, you need to go through recovery. if you're going to go through recovery...might a well make the most of the cycle and use injectables and run it for 10 weeks.

thats about that:).

have a nice day
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bigmack said:
I not going to flame you for really not knowing why an oral only cycle is bad. However, with as much research as you claim to have done this is one of the simplest questions to have answered opn your own. With that being said, the first cycle I ever did (2.5 years ago) was a D-Bol only cycle with only 150 tabs for 5 weeks. I was scared of needles and a steroid rookie. I used a pyramid type dosing cycle (Hey I was new and didn't know better) starting with two tabs ED and increasing every week (3ED the next, then 5ED for two weeks and going back down). I even had some left over. Anyways, I ate like a pig trained like an animal and made fantastic strength gains and put on like 35 pounds. After the cycle I kept damn near all the strength and lost probably 8-10 pounds. The bloat is killer but you feel like a star. Thats just my experience and I'm sure others with have their own opinion. But build the knowledge base and experiment bro everyone's a little different. Just don't go stupid....you are manipulating the only body you have in this lifetime.
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not that oral only is "bad" for you,as long as they are kept to 4 or 5 weeks,and only a single drug,since they are 17aa.its just useless in my opinion and for that matter 90% of people here.say you did a d-bol only cycle for 5 weeks and gained 35lbs?thats unheard of and really so with the dosage you were on.but then you kept around 25lbs of mass afterwards without any pct?im calling bullshit on this.if so my last cycle i should have gained atleast 100lbs.not a flame but that is just hard to believe.

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None taken. Notice I did not give stats with post. I ate like a pig bro I was a definitely not ripped or even low %BF for that matter. I'm not saying that it was a 25lb gain of pure lean body mass. Just that it was my first cycle I made incredible strength gains, kept them all and put on weight. Everything I wanted from the 'roids at the time. By the time spring rolled around (few months later) I had lost much of the weight through dieting but kept a majority of the strength. Also to help clarify the strength increases to prevent any BS call outs, they were by no means powerlifter class feats of strength. Just significantly above my starting point. Again this was my first cycle with alot of rookie mistakes.
 
My first, and uneducated, cycle was Dbol only at 30 mg every day for 6 weeks. In the first 3 weeks i gained about 13 pounds but i was bloated as hell, my strength did go up, but nothin huge. I had to stop at three weeks because of the lower back pain i got from bloat, and guess what, within about 10 days, pretty much all the weight i had gained was gone (because it was all water weight). I kept very little strength. ALso, it took a while before i started making any kind of gains again because i was shut down with pretty much no gain. I felt like a little bitch. I regret ever doin that stupid Dbol only cycle just wasnt worth it and they are just a waste of money IMO.
 
superman15 said:
so then you would have similiar results with m-1t. Right?
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Maxrep has taken alot of time responding to your posts and you have chose to ignore the advice.

I dont get it are you just asking these questions because you are bored because if you had done one once of research you would not be asking all these questions. You would know about water weight and quality gains...also dont be afraid to stick yourself I mean if you dont know that you absolutely have to run some test with an oral by now then I dont know what else to tell you.

Its risk versus reward...Lower liver and prostate risks and respectable management of all assoisiated risks.

It is evident that you need to use the search funtion in this forum before you do any more typing of questions.

Joe summed it up and your still asking which is exactly what you were doing with Maxrep.

Enough allready...take the advice you have been so generously given.

Pats
 
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i appreciate the advice. However, i dont understand, that why do you have to inject test en or cyp 2x per week if it has a half life of 10 days. Or is it just the mere fact that you inject more you get more out of it?
 
superman15 said:
i appreciate the advice. However, i dont understand, that why do you have to inject test en or cyp 2x per week if it has a half life of 10 days. Or is it just the mere fact that you inject more you get more out of it?
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to keep the levels more constant - somew of these small questions you ask show you off as a newbie with little research - now I dont want to flame or be an asshole but some of these bro's have tried to help you in the other posts you have made - it is time to get with the program - back in the 80's guys did heavy oral cycles and most of them are dead now - get it?


btw what is your age and stats?
 
You don't want to know his stats. 18...OF COURSE and a piddly 200lbs at 6'3" or something very close to that.
 
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