Why vote Republican Anymore?

[LeoTC]

Union worker here and I pay less than $20 a week for insurance with no deductible. That’s for 2 people. I’d be pissed if I got “taxed” even more for someone else’s healthcare.

You already do.

We give Isreal 10.1M a day. They have universal healthcare. You think the roughly 38B a year we send in combined aid and grants isn't helping to subsidize that?

 

[egonormical1010]

You already do.

We give Isreal 10.1M a day. They have universal healthcare. You think the roughly 38B a year we send in combined aid and grants isn't helping to subsidize that?

Hence, “even more”

 

[LeoTC]

Hence, “even more”

Maybe instead focus on the misappropriation of the taxes you're already paying?

Y'all kinda miss the mark on this stuff.

It's crazy, to me, that nobody bats an eye about bankrolling the greatest illegal occupation in modern history, but get up on arms about covering chemo.

Absolutely mindblowing.

 

[4Figgy]

You're being willfully obtuse.

Perhaps rhe child shouldn't be resuscitated to begin with. Emergency medical care isn't mentioned anywhere in the constitution. Nor is any kind of life sustaining machinery.

You're essentially arguing, "Baby is out, it's on its own now."

All good though, didn't expect much out of you.

No I’m arguing that the discussion is about infanticide. If a child is born with complications and needs resuscitation then it’s a doctor’s obligation to perform necessary actions to save the child. If so, the baby is alive, and any “discussion” about what “to do with him/her” is a discussion of murder.

 

[4Figgy]

I totally agree is money being wasted in America. I have also come to understand our government has zero intent to pay off the debt. Eventually China can stop loans, and/or the interest will be impossibility to pay off. Fun times then.

 

[bambam333]

Maybe instead focus on the misappropriation of the taxes you're already paying?

Y'all kinda miss the mark on this stuff.

It's crazy, to me, that nobody bats an eye about bankrolling the greatest illegal occupation in modern history, but get up on arms about covering chemo.

Absolutely mindblowing.

That you are 100 percent on I have no idea why in the fuckkkk we are giving money to anyone at all especially when we need it here.

 

[rutman]

I totally agree is money being wasted in America. I have also come to understand our government has zero intent to pay off the debt. Eventually China can stop loans, and/or the interest will be impossibility to pay off. Fun times then.

I agree... that day is definitely coming.

 

[flenser]

You're being willfully obtuse.

Perhaps rhe child shouldn't be resuscitated to begin with. Emergency medical care isn't mentioned anywhere in the constitution. Nor is any kind of life sustaining machinery.

You're essentially arguing, "Baby is out, it's on its own now."

All good though, didn't expect much out of you.

The content of what Northam said in the interview isn't particularly alarming to me, and I'm extremely anti abortion. However, his answer was actually a dodge of the question he was asked, which was about the care of a child that had survived an abortion attempt in the third trimester and whether it had the same rights as any other child born in the same stage of pregnancy. All his talk about deformities and resuscitation was subterfuge. He was blocking a bill that supported those rights, made the practitioner criminally liable for violating them, and protected the mother from prosecution.

So the bill was blocked and it remains perfectly legal, and practiced, to kill a baby AFTER it has been born, as long as it was delivered during an abortion attempt. There's no stipulation in any law about viability, deformities, etc. So the legal determination of whether the baby is a human with human rights is based entirely on the intent of the doctor delivering it. If he intends to deliver it, he is criminally liable for its proper medical care. If he intends to abort it, he can do what ever he wants with it.

 

[Praeceptorem]

Lmao, babies can't be aborted after they are born. That doesn't make sense. Did you hear that from Fox news? The Conservative news channel in my state was also talking about this bill that would kill all non unionized companies. Turns out it was just something they read on Fox news, and fox news had literally deleted the post minutes after posting it because they realized their source wasn't credible. The best thing to do would be to call your local congressman and ask someone to explain the bill.

And gun reform does not mean "take your guns away" keeping a MAGA neo Nazi from buying ak's to shoot up women and children is not radical...

The funny thing with this is that I know about the same amount of conservatives as I do democrats and liberals and I would have to say democrats and liberals own more guns than conservatives do in general. Heck my dad buys at least 2 new guns a year and has several safes in the house to keep them.

So if I was a nazi let’s say. Now I’m persecuted and not allowed to own guns because of my belief system? Hilarious how that’s such backwards bullshit.

 

[LeoTC]

No I’m arguing that the discussion is about infanticide. If a child is born with complications and needs resuscitation then it’s a doctor’s obligation to perform necessary actions to save the child. If so, the baby is alive, and any “discussion” about what “to do with him/her” is a discussion of murder.

Is honoring a DNR murder?

The doctors are keeping the child alive artificially after being legally forced to resuscitate despite the parent's wishes.

The child is, in this case, unable to survive without constant medical intervention. Yes, there's brain activity, but perhaps no cognitive function. There's a heartbeat, but the breathing is being done by a machine.

Strictly speaking, the child is alive. But will be attached to said machines for the entirety of their life...which may be a matter of weeks, months, or potentially a few years.

According to you, the child has inherent right to this intervention. But is the child's life a life worth 'living?'

Who's footing the bill? If the state is mandating the intervention, it would seem unethical to foist the burden on parents that disagree with keeping the child alive.

It would also seem rather cruel to force parents to endure watching their child live a life of hardship, to put it mildly, knowing that they're essentially suffering while they wait for the same medical intervention to inevitably fail them.

Because life is what matters, correct? Not quality of life?

You're the type that wouldn't put a suffering dog down either I take it?

 

[boxer15]

So if I was a nazi let’s say. Now I’m persecuted and not allowed to own guns because of my belief system? Hilarious how that’s such backwards bullshit.

If your a Nazi you should be put in jail imo. This is America and we fought to wipe the Nazi scum off the face of the planet.

 

[boxer15]

There is plenty of housing. Its just simply not affordable. So some choose to live alternatively.

Yeah it's all due to capatlism supply and demand. Most jobs in that area are paying 300k with total compensation factored in. So those workers have a ton to spend on housing and the landlords know that.

 

[boxer15]

That you are 100 percent on I have no idea why in the fuckkkk we are giving money to anyone at all especially when we need it here.

You probably won't do it, but if you vote for progressive candidates, most oppose sending billions to other countries in foreign aid when we need it hear. The funny thing is most conservatives have more in common with progressives than they do Republicans, but for the sake of abortion rights would rather live a tougher life.

 

[bambam333]

You probably won't do it, but if you vote for progressive candidates, most oppose sending billions to other countries in foreign aid when we need it hear. The funny thing is most conservatives have more in common with progressives than they do Republicans, but for the sake of abortion rights would rather live a tougher life.

I never would because they’re all full of shit no matter who it is and what they say. But republicans at the end of the day have more similar beliefs as I do and democrats have the opposite of my beliefs

 

[Praeceptorem]

If your a Nazi you should be put in jail imo. This is America and we fought to wipe the Nazi scum off the face of the planet.

I see I see..... we do in fact but that’s persecuting people due to an ideology and if they are not violent, then no we have right to such things. This goes for many many more ideologies... you cannot just take rights away.

 

[Dresden]

Negative ghost rider, you are the one misunderstood. He meant that the baby will be born alive, and then a decision can be made to kill or not kill the baby. Do some research to inform yourself better.

that is absolutely NOT a law at all, and there is not 1 example of that being done...jeeez!

 

[Dresden]

That’s because no one does they’re research they just hear free shit and they have their vote. There is no success stories of socialism but people hear free and follow blindly

yet there are more registered republicans on public assistance than dems...go figure

 

[Dresden]

The content of what Northam said in the interview isn't particularly alarming to me, and I'm extremely anti abortion. However, his answer was actually a dodge of the question he was asked, which was about the care of a child that had survived an abortion attempt in the third trimester and whether it had the same rights as any other child born in the same stage of pregnancy. All his talk about deformities and resuscitation was subterfuge. He was blocking a bill that supported those rights, made the practitioner criminally liable for violating them, and protected the mother from prosecution.

So the bill was blocked and it remains perfectly legal, and practiced, to kill a baby AFTER it has been born, as long as it was delivered during an abortion attempt. There's no stipulation in any law about viability, deformities, etc. So the legal determination of whether the baby is a human with human rights is based entirely on the intent of the doctor delivering it. If he intends to deliver it, he is criminally liable for its proper medical care. If he intends to abort it, he can do what ever he wants with it.

there are NO 3rd trimester abortions that's not even a medical term , abortions end pregnancy not childbirth . if the life of the mother is in danger during childbirth the decision is made usually by the parent(s) which life to save. if a child is born not breathing then the child will be attempted to be resuscitated. post an example where child was killed by parents and doctors after being born alive

 

[Zebedee]

Maybe instead focus on the misappropriation of the taxes you're already paying?

Y'all kinda miss the mark on this stuff.

It's crazy, to me, that nobody bats an eye about bankrolling the greatest illegal occupation in modern history, but get up on arms about covering chemo.

Absolutely mindblowing.

Spot on mate.

 

[Zebedee]

If your a Nazi you should be put in jail imo. This is America and we fought to wipe the Nazi scum off the face of the planet.

Disagree with you here.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the bastards with a passion. Cunts, the lot of them.

If they actually do something wrong, sure, jail them.

But if you start locking people up just for their opinions rather than their actions, then where does it end?

That is what Nazis do.

You can't have your cake & eat it.

Not every facist, racist or even Nazi is a dribbling violent psycho. Obnoxious cunts, yes, but not necessarily violent ones.

You didn't go to war with "Nazis" either. You went to war with Germany. This idea that it was "just the Nazi's" who started WW2 is bollocks. It's a myth & an excuse started by Germans after the war. Germany also started WW1, remember?

Gun control itself is an entirely different debate & the vast majority of mass shooters in the US haven't been Nazis.

I'm pro gun control btw, just to add. Also by US standards, a raving libtard lol. Gun control & freedom of speech are two different things though & I'm all for free speech.