Why vote Republican Anymore?

[flenser]

If you choose to reply. Lets make it clear that the democrats like Joe Biden the front runner right now was and is to this day in full support of the police state.

In some ways the republican idea to cut taxes is very much the right way, however it's a shell game, they never cut police state funding and at this point some of the largest lobbying groups come from LE and the Prison Industry that calls for more police and more laws to lock up more people to keep the business going.

Only through massive tax cuts that are spread across all sectors, but focusing on Legislation, LE, and Incarceration will you destroy the power of these psychos. I would also move massive amounts of guns all through this country, I would make it mission number one to arm all citizen with the most deadly weapons, sniper rifles, high capacity weapons and I would make it mandatory that every child K-12 studies and recites anti-government, anti-authority, anti-religion literature.

Going through archives of speeches given by democrats during the 80's and 90's showed us that it was them more than anyone else that called for not just punishing drug dealers(which they shouldn't), but Biden called for going after "every drug user", he wanted drastic funding increases for policing and eventually we saw what happened during the 90's when the drug war was scaled up exponentially to what we have today which is a holocaust, much like the nazi's that pinned all that was wrong with their society on the jews, the United States went through periods where they to pinned all that was wrong with society on drug users, Biden called for more Judges, Prosecutors and more cops to carry out a scorched earth policy where no one was left behind.

So while republicans are in all respects idiots, the democrats at least throughout the past back to Kennedy have proven to be evil incarnate.

Agree with some of that. A couple of comments, though.

On cutting taxes, how will that help when there is a federal reserve ready and willing to intervene with monetary inflation to prevent both the federal government and the major banks from defaulting on their massive debts? They call it Keynesian economics, but it is really a Marxist invention.

"I would make it mandatory that every child K-12 studies and recites anti-government, anti-authority, anti-religion literature."

You do realize that public schooling was implemented as a means of indoctrinating children to support the state? If you're going to indoctrinate them with anti-authority propaganda (they already get the anti-religion crap), what authority exactly will you use to impose that indoctrination? Whatever mechanism is put in place to impose your view of proper society, it's a sure thing it will be subverted the minute your authority wanes.

 

[zepp]

We have a much larger population and vast entitlement and welfare system. One that caters to women and children especially, with men of working age expected to pay to support this system and if they don't they will be jailed.

Public education can be funded, we could make drastic cuts to worthless programs, fire most of the teachers we currently have and seek out a more useful group of educators. I personally think science(chemistry, physics, biology), math, hands on programs in electronics, plumbing, airconditioning, heating, building, for those with aptitude engineering would be especially important. I would get rid of the arts programs, feminist studies...ect and replace them with marksmanship, weapon making, survival skills. I would teach them how to be self sufficient without a government hovering over their every move.

Next step would be to destroy the white house, capital building, courthouses, revenue collection agencies all across the country, jails and prisons, destroy every tool the slave traders have. I would eliminate the law profession, I would make it so simple a 5 year old could have a complete understanding. "Keep your hands off people and their property", with a heavily armed society you have a courteous society because there's a lot of dirt in this country to stick bodies.

So while I consider anti authority to be a top concern, later when you eliminate the power of the federal government and the state(state powers are often even more tyranical than the feds), to have trust for no man and his decision making when it comes to politics, to come to understand that "respect for law" is really just another version of "obey the bible and its made up nonsense".

With a science and trades based education, with empowering people with real skills to survive, they no longer have a need to worship the state or supernatural deities for that matter.

 

[Zebedee]

@zepp

Where you raised to be a libertarian, or did you you come to it by yourself over time?

Reason i ask is because as a Brit, it's pretty much an alien ideology to me that i can't really relate to personally. I am aware it's not unusual for Yanks though.

Just curious as to how you came to it really. Not a bait or saying i think your views are wrong & mine are right etc.

 

[flenser]

@zepp

Where you raised to be a libertarian, or did you you come to it by yourself over time?

Reason i ask is because as a Brit, it's pretty much an alien ideology to me that i can't really relate to personally. I am aware it's not unusual for Yanks though.

Just curious as to how you came to it really. Not a bait or saying i think your views are wrong & mine are right etc.

He seems to be pushing a different flavor of authoritarianism, not libertarian at all.

Plenty of Brits on mises.org, so it's not an alien ideology to all of you. You just have to shake your public school programming first.

 

[zepp]

I had a mixed upbringing. Mom that was and is obsessed with her jesus, separated father that has absolutely no use for religion at all, who grew up as a hillbilly fending for himself in the ozarks to shoot something to eat for his brothers and sisters.

Put it together and you see both sides of life. One is oppressive and restricting centered around god and the state, the other that believed we should have a massive civil war to eliminate 90% of the people in this country so he could have the woods for trapping and hunting to himself.

As for authoritarianism, not really. I see that religion has to go away, it's through this idea of right/wrong that has been bashed into peoples skulls that you get the worship of the state or it's evil counter part worship of something that doesn't exist forcing everyone to live by the rules of a made up supernatural.

Libertarianism is just a stepping stone to the ultimate goal. Most libertarians are tools, many of them invoke a higher power and while they have the right position for the police state, they don't go near far enough to destroy all forms of authority, including the supernatural.

 

[Dw725]

when no Democrat had ever said they want to take your guns away

You're an idiot, several have literally said exactly that.

 

[zepp]

Leftism is dangerous because it promises you all sorts of goodies, it tickles the ears of those that think problems can be fixed if we all just work together and create a shit ton more laws and regulations.

Ultimately you lose sovereignty, you become like a caged animal, unable to move in any direction without the government.

Leftist question my right to own myself, they think I'm state property. This should enrage any freethinker.

 

[zepp]

I always direct anyone to this video as an introduction to resisting statism.

 

[Baggalo]

Leftism is dangerous because it promises you all sorts of goodies, it tickles the ears of those that think problems can be fixed if we all just work together and create a shit ton more laws and regulations.

Ultimately you lose sovereignty, you become like a caged animal, unable to move in any direction without the government.

Leftist question my right to own myself, they think I'm state property. This should enrage any freethinker.

You didn't build that

 

[zepp]

Ultimately what you have on offer in the United States and the west in general is "God or Government".

Very few people, perhaps no people the world over have ejected both of these in place of self ownership without any of the baggage that comes with statism or religion.

We find in the case politicians like Ted Cruz that believe in small government replaced by christianity. Some would see this as a more principled position. Certainly western philosophy has tended to default to "God gave use the rights to life, liberty and property".

With Trump we get someone that isn't really a christian, so he's less principled and more willing or perhaps completely blind to is preference to big government, pouring vast sums of money into security both internal as a police state and external with increases in military spending. He panders to the evangelicals by throwing them a few token rights to serve up their slop in schools and government functions.

Ultimately the more one leans to atheism, objectivism, rationalism, the less a person can rely on the John Locke position that ultimate rights derive from god. So they have to be argued from another position, but it's an argument that can never truly be finished as the religious folk simply can't accept that you have any rights without god.

Liberty depends on property and property depends on God and we are Gods property so violating someone else rights is a violation of Gods property. This is the fatal flaw of western culture. How this is ultimately done away with, I have no clue.

You can argue this for eternity, until the concept of God is done away with and people just accept that you have the right to your own actions as long as they don't interfere with another's actions, but even that is impossible, as people will become pissed if you're an idiot pushing bullshit.

So a more vulgar society, one where people are allowed to voice opinion without any hint of decorum, would allow all parties to voice their opinion without the typical American way of allowing one sided views while those opposing sit there in silence waiting for their day to lash out against these people after generations of rule.

It will be interesting to see how as the older generations pass away if the younger generations can usher in true freedom or will they continue to force people to behave and pretend they like being cogs in a machine. Will there come a day when people don't give a shit, can do as they please as long as it's not violent, where they simply speak their minds without any filter in any situation. It would be fun hearing what people actually think, instead of what they're told or expected to think.

 

[zepp]

The Republican Christian mind teaches those in positions of power to:

subjugate, torture and kill, that is the history of this religion since the past 1600 years.

While certainly less brutal than 200 years in the past, its brutality is more calculated, dragging its heals towards progress, holding onto tradition and older ways of thinking as people get dragged into a meat grinder kicking and screaming to pay for the supposed sins of society.

 

[insaiyan93]

Ahhh the fragile white Male ego being triggered. It's a beautiful thing, damn near brings a tear to my eye.

 

[movingiron88]

Ahhh the fragile white Male ego being triggered. It's a beautiful thing, damn near brings a tear to my eye.

Ummm did you quote the right post?

 

[insaiyan93]

Ummm did you quote the right post?

The one making fun of AOC? Yeah.

 

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