Why vote Republican Anymore?

[Senorman]

From what I gather, no stock buy backs can be done until 2 years have passed. A lot of the media makes out like the companies will just buy stock with the money immediately. That’s just not true.

Now they’re wanting to add money to refugees outside of the country, abortion funding, and other things that have nothing to do with thus situation. Just pass the bill the way it was negotiated....which was bipartisan in the senate.

The problem with the stock buyback restriction is that the treasury secretary would have the discretion to waive the two year buyback period. Plus, two years is way too short of a restriction. That sounds shitty to me, and should to all but billionaires.

 

[zepp]

No one should be getting any money.

Have fully loaded pantries and kitchens to take care of those in need and their families. They also need to weigh in, if they're carrying large fat reserves then they should be told to live off their blubbery reserves.

Landlords and Banks can be reimbursed for rent that can't be paid directly at 75% of what they were getting paid previously.

The Fed should be forced to back up all the money they print with something of value, no more adding zeros on a computer and sending it to the bank. This method has propped up a class of people that have become parasites for the working man.....Je**sh bankers that have never worked an honest day in their lives and yet seem to control all the money and media.

 

[zepp]

Trump did what all republicans do, give huge tax cuts, the rich buy their own stock, drive up value artificially and three weeks before it all tanks they liquidate when the market is high and sit back and wait until the market hits rock bottom and buy it all back again. Rinse and repeat.

They did this under GW Bush, They did this under Reagan. It's the same old con job they always pull and people keep voting for these clowns.

As for the democrats, they don't mean anything anymore. Up until the 90's they were the working mans party, then Nafta destroyed the country and the working man hasn't had a party since. All the dems care about these days is if you're skin is dark, you have some fucked up religion that forces you to wear a towel on your head and cut peoples heads and hands off, or your a transgender non-binary person that wants to shower with little girls and boys.

 

[flenser]

The stimulus package is mostly just political theater. The Fed is where the real action is: buying corporate bonds and US Treasuries, taking stocks as collateral. There would be NO stimulus without the Fed, because the US government is broke, and no corporate entity has the spare cash to buy treasuries.

Remember when you finally get your "free" money in the mail. It was created with no backing other than the promise to take even more from you (or your children) in the future.

 

[zepp]

At some point the kids are gonna revolt. You can see it already in their questioning long held traditions, they don't have a problem asking why some old fuck with dementia is calling all the shots. Remember this is the generation that didn't hold open the door for granny and grandpa, they don't seem to have a blind allegiance to something just because they're told to.


These kids didn't create these problems, they didn't ask for these unnecessary wars and spending. If someone came to me as a fresh faced 18 year old and handed me a $20,000 bill for the Vietnam War I would tell them to fuck off, and these kids I can assure you will be doing just that when the nursing home that is D.C. changes hands.

 

[flenser]

At some point the kids are gonna revolt. You can see it already in their questioning long held traditions, they don't have a problem asking why some old fuck with dementia is calling all the shots. Remember this is the generation that didn't hold open the door for granny and grandpa, they don't seem to have a blind allegiance to something just because they're told to.


These kids didn't create these problems, they didn't ask for these unnecessary wars and spending. If someone came to me as a fresh faced 18 year old and handed me a $20,000 bill for the Vietnam War I would tell them to fuck off, and these kids I can assure you will be doing just that when the nursing home that is D.C. changes hands.

Most of those kids are low skilled, have no work ethic and are conditioned for entitlement. They will increasingly vote in socialist politicians as demographics and time grant them the power to do so. Then they will complain about all those things you mentioned, never understanding that they are voting in the people making it happen. All us old farts will continue to sit around and shake our heads wondering what the hell happened to our country.

 

[zepp]

Most of those kids are low skilled, have no work ethic and are conditioned for entitlement. They will increasingly vote in socialist politicians as demographics and time grant them the power to do so. Then they will complain about all those things you mentioned, never understanding that they are voting in the people making it happen. All us old farts will continue to sit around and shake our heads wondering what the hell happened to our country.

The kids are however raising questions that in the past weren't allowed. I never heard the words drug legalization from any politicians back in the 80's, 90's, 2000's. Recently that's a thing with the younger candidates and only the younger candidates.

As for the current corrupt old politicians running things. There's no special skills, maybe if you count being a scumbag bought off by lobbyists and endless connections, but there's nothing as far as special talent in any of these dinosaurs.

Give the kids a chance, they'll figure out. I remember the baby boomers and the way they controlled everything in the workplace having doubts about any of us Gen Z being able to take charge. The baby boomers proved to be he most control freak asswipes the work place has ever known. They simply didn't know how to let go and let someone else come in with fresh ideas, and that's the case with the current legacy politicians we keep digging up from the grave to run things.

 

[flenser]

The kids are however raising questions that in the past weren't allowed. I never heard the words drug legalization from any politicians back in the 80's, 90's, 2000's. Recently that's a thing with the younger candidates and only the younger candidates.

As for the current corrupt old politicians running things. There's no special skills, maybe if you count being a scumbag bought off by lobbyists and endless connections, but there's nothing as far as special talent in any of these dinosaurs.

Give the kids a chance, they'll figure out. I remember the baby boomers and the way they controlled everything in the workplace having doubts about any of us Gen Z being able to take charge. The baby boomers proved to be he most control freak asswipes the work place has ever known. They simply didn't know how to let go and let someone else come in with fresh ideas, and that's the case with the current legacy politicians we keep digging up from the grave to run things.

I wasn't talking about the skill set required to be a politician. We pretty much agree on those requirements.

I was talking about the skills and drive needed to work for a living and produce things others want to buy. Many of them, maybe most of them, lack those requirements and will vote in handouts as a result. Can't say I blame them given what they were brought up to believe.

 

[zepp]

You can't blame kids for seeing that work should be avoided at all costs, because most of the work today is little more than fluffing pillows or doing something that really has no need in being performed.

I grew up in the 70's and 80's. I watched men go to work six days a week to manufacture what we need. I also witnessed the Free Trade Agreements and Vulture Capitalists take all those jobs first to Mexico and then China. That economy doesn't exist anymore. Those same hard working men that had really good work ethics were sitting on the couch drinking beer by the late 90's with nothing to do but accept a depressing humiliating job where they were forced to perform for a boss that loves demeaning them.

When I was growing up we had Made in the USA labels on everything, even my shoes had it and they were great quality. Good luck finding that today.

So what do the kids have. 30% will graduate from College with lots of debt, many of them will find a trade to make a living, they will work in service jobs. They'll have a good run for about 25 years, then their skills will become obsolete, they will lose their jobs, they will have a tough time finding other jobs and it will be for less money.

There really is no hope for this. I've seen this cycle happen over and over and over.

The kids today also probably don't work as hard because they're sitting around looking at all the bullshit people buy to get themselves into massive debt and they don't want that for themselves. So they sit back, live with less and enjoy the free time.

I wasn't born to be a worker bee, my existence isn't validated by working 80hrs a week. If that's your identity, if you are caught up in what others think of you, then you really aren't living, you're simply filling a role that is expected of you. And this is coming from someone that busted his ass in school and worked many times 24hr shifts, 18hr days for weeks on projects. I eventually had enough money to say fuck it and walked away from it. I now do what I want to do when I want to do it. People look at me like I'm a bum because I don't go to work, but I have zero debt, I have enough money to last 50 years easy, but society doesn't care, they seem to think that the only thing in life is to be in service of others, but I say fuck that. My motto is mind you own damn business, I don't give a fuck about you and you shouldn't care about me.

 

[movingiron88]

You can't blame kids for seeing that work should be avoided at all costs, because most of the work today is little more than fluffing pillows or doing something that really has no need in being performed.

I grew up in the 70's and 80's. I watched men go to work six days a week to manufacture what we need. I also witnessed the Free Trade Agreements and Vulture Capitalists take all those jobs first to Mexico and then China. That economy doesn't exist anymore. Those same hard working men that had really good work ethics were sitting on the couch drinking beer by the late 90's with nothing to do but accept a depressing humiliating job where they were forced to perform for a boss that loves demeaning them.

When I was growing up we had Made in the USA labels on everything, even my shoes had it and they were great quality. Good luck finding that today.

So what do the kids have. 30% will graduate from College with lots of debt, many of them will find a trade to make a living, they will work in service jobs. They'll have a good run for about 25 years, then their skills will become obsolete, they will lose their jobs, they will have a tough time finding other jobs and it will be for less money.

There really is no hope for this. I've seen this cycle happen over and over and over.

The kids today also probably don't work as hard because they're sitting around looking at all the bullshit people buy to get themselves into massive debt and they don't want that for themselves. So they sit back, live with less and enjoy the free time.

I wasn't born to be a worker bee, my existence isn't validated by working 80hrs a week. If that's your identity, if you are caught up in what others think of you, then you really aren't living, you're simply filling a role that is expected of you. And this is coming from someone that busted his ass in school and worked many times 24hr shifts, 18hr days for weeks on projects. I eventually had enough money to say fuck it and walked away from it. I now do what I want to do when I want to do it. People look at me like I'm a bum because I don't go to work, but I have zero debt, I have enough money to last 50 years easy, but society doesn't care, they seem to think that the only thing in life is to be in service of others, but I say fuck that. My motto is mind you own damn business, I don't give a fuck about you and you shouldn't care about me.

@zepp = @Sworder its official

 

[mancal70]

@zepp = @Sworder its official

You mean he's a troll schlepping politics? [emoji23]

 

[flenser]

@zepp = @Sworder its official

Ha, I thought everyone already knew.

 

[zepp]

No I'm not Sworder, I have no idea where he is, but I went back and forth with him when I posted under another name. I change names on this forum about every 3 months.

Sworder was much more interested in psychology, I don't have any real interest in why people think the way they do, I just call out bullshit when I see it. And of course anytime someone mentions mindless allegiance to god and country, I'm there to counter.

 

[MindlessWork]

No I'm not Sworder, I have no idea where he is, but I went back and forth with him when I posted under another name. I change names on this forum about every 3 months.

Sworder was much more interested in psychology, I don't have any real interest in why people think the way they do, I just call out bullshit when I see it. And of course anytime someone mentions mindless allegiance to god and country, I'm there to counter.

Your posting style is eerily like @Sworder’s so no wonder people are calling you out. How do you know Sworder is into psychology? That brings the question...

 

[zepp]

Because sworder threw in psychology references to posts when we went back and forth. I didn't always understand Sworder, seemed like he might not be American, his writing style didn't always flow, I couldn't understand what he was trying to get across.

I doubt Sworder was an atheist, anarchist like myself. I certainly didn't read anything by him that pointed in that direction. I doubt Sworder talked much about police state, something I'm interested in as well. I don't remember Sworder mentioning much about homebrewing, he didn't really talk much at all about AAS use.

I can assure you I'm not Sworder, but eventually I'll change my name again and start trolling under a new name pissing you guys off again. Then you will wonder where Zepp went.

 

[zepp]

I can assure you the posts I've made in the past under another name really got some of you pissed off. I pulled out all the stops, criticized everything that is sacred and dear to many of you.

 

[Logan44551]

I can assure you the posts I've made in the past under another name really got some of you pissed off. I pulled out all the stops, criticized everything that is sacred and dear to many of you.

What handle? It'd be fun to go back and read some good trolling

 

[notdeadYET]

I can assure you the posts I've made in the past under another name really got some of you pissed off. I pulled out all the stops, criticized everything that is sacred and dear to many of you.

God still loves you. Best of luck to you under your new handle.

 

[movingiron88]

I can assure you the posts I've made in the past under another name really got some of you pissed off. I pulled out all the stops, criticized everything that is sacred and dear to many of you.

Man, you should really post yourself on the back for that. Glad to see your aiming high in life.

 

[zepp]

Man, you should really post yourself on the back for that. Glad to see your aiming high in life.

It wouldn't even matter, but I gotta call out nonsense so many people are attached to. Like today had to help a family member put a light on his flag. I asked what difference does it make, the flag doesn't know the difference and when it's dark no one can see the flag.

He said you gotta show it respect. Who the fuck even dreams up this shit and how did we get so bereft of imagination to let that kind of lame ass shit creep into our minds.

People will kill one another over a piece of dyed fabric, that's crazy, but that's also how many people in this country think.

I'm just glad my dad was a guy that went A-wall during Vietnam, he was drafted getting ready to deploy and said fuck this shit, a man that grew up with a gun and hunted his own food from the age of 5, that got sent school after school as an army brat and had to get in constant fist fights, but he refused to kill people he never had a problem with and he refused to take orders from anyone like a mindless drone. That said he did spend time in jail for beating peoples asses in bar fights and it did take the entire police station to get him in the cell, so he wasn't a pussy.

That's the kind of America we need, people that tell Uncle Sam to fuck off.