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Theworm

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What’s a common dose for a female just looking to increase libido? 10mg a week?

She’s scared of cliteromegaly (I am not ) but at what dose and duration does one see that and I’m guessing it’s not reversible?
 
Theworm said:
What’s a common dose for a female just looking to increase libido? 10mg a week?

She’s scared of cliteromegaly (I am not ) but at what dose and duration does one see that and I’m guessing it’s not reversible?
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5 to 10 mg/week of testosterone (without ester weight) for HRT if you are really pushing it.

Female Testosterone Usage

Applying testosterone cream to labia or anus does result in some growth over course of months/years.
 
Maybe look at the DHT cream reports. There's a bunch of anecdotal data out there for those desiring significant growth in short period of time. Of course the patients wishes have to be the primary factor to consider. I read she was looking for HRT.

Noticeable improvement to libido on the time frame of weeks to months. Find a good, non-judgmental Doc.
 
I imagine she would be getting a hormone panel, before taking anything and she will speak to a specialist.
There may be trial and error, with this kind of thing.
The lower the dose, the less risk of sides.

I am linking a couple of things she may want to have a quick look at, but the second one is from 2014, so not recent.
You may find other things.

link.springer.com

Effects of testosterone treatment on clitoral haemodynamics in women with sexual dysfunction - Journal of Endocrinological Investigation

Purpose To explore the effects of 6-month systemic testosterone (T) administration on clitoral color Doppler ultrasound (CDU) parameters in women with female sexual dysfunction (FSD). Methods 81 women with FSD were retrospectively recruited. Data on CDU parameters at baseline and after 6 months...
link.springer.com link.springer.com


academic.oup.com

Androgen Therapy in Women: A Reappraisal: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline

AbstractObjective:. To update practice guidelines for the therapeutic use of androgens in women.Participants:. A Task Force appointed by the Endocrine Soci
academic.oup.com academic.oup.com
 
So I read test in females are associated with increased breast cancer risk, esp post menopausal women… it’s due to conversion to E2, of course. So hypothetically, wouldn’t it be better to cycle oxandrolone, maybe 2.5 to 5mg for 8 weeks at a time, this is associated with less breast cancer risk. I’m not concerned about her lipids as her ldl is 40 and hdl is over 100…
 
Theworm said:
So I read test in females are associated with increased breast cancer risk, esp post menopausal women… it’s due to conversion to E2, of course. So hypothetically, wouldn’t it be better to cycle oxandrolone, maybe 2.5 to 5mg for 8 weeks at a time, this is associated with less breast cancer risk. I’m not concerned about her lipids as her ldl is 40 and hdl is over 100…
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For libido? It will.not work. She will have an increase at first and after It will deep lower as the anavar will shut down her test production etc.

At least this is what happened to my wife every time she cycled anavar
 
Yeah, I don't understand what you are trying to do here.
Doesn't make sense.
Is she post menopausal? You say "especially post menopausal women", shall we assume she is?
Does she know about her current hormonal balance?
 
iris said:
Yeah, I don't understand what you are trying to do here.
Doesn't make sense.
Is she post menopausal? You say "especially post menopausal women", shall we assume she is?
Does she know about her current hormonal balance?
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She’s not post menopausal, she’s 43, decent libido but she says if her libido drops off, she may want low dose test. I’m just worried about breast cancer risk… personally, I would love an enlarged clit but that’s just me be selfish and nasty
 
Theworm said:
She’s not post menopausal, she’s 43, decent libido but she says if her libido drops off, she may want low dose test. I’m just worried about breast cancer risk… personally, I would love an enlarged clit but that’s just me be selfish and nasty
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My wife (low 40s) takes MT2 (MelanoTan2) peptide to increase her libido. She was addicted to tanning and over time she discovered she got horny when taking it. There is another similar peptide called PT141 that is the same as MT2 but doesn't change skin pigment color
 
Lots of women take 10-20 a week of cyp for libido. 20 being the max. If she needs 20 it usually swells the clit and it becomes more sensitive. It does go back to normal if you taper off the dose. My girl used to get it at a womens clinic. Now she just uses her own . She's 50 though. She likes 20 best. We tried 5 and 10 a week it doesn't do much. Only sides is a stray chin hair to pluck but at 50 those came natty also. Sometimes her libido still goes down though but its better on trt. Some of the best times we had was a day after her shot. She hates shots and only takes one dose once a week. I know that not the best way. If you look on reddit lots of females take 20 a week of cyp even though some say its too much. Maybe cause your not actually taking 20mg with the cyp oil.
 
Libido for women is a BRAIN thing. Testosterone is a human hormone, not just a male hormone, and not just a sex hormone. There are plenty of non-libido reasons to get on TRT for women, just as there are plenty of non-libido reasons to supplement estrogen as our ovaries stop making it.

Testosterone is approved for hypogonadism in males but just for ‘libido’ in women, which is retarded IMO; Testosterone helps women maintain bone mass, muscle mass, prevents cognitive decline, brain fog, prevents cardiovascular disease, etc.

Testosterone reduces our risk of breast cancer

Having said that, getting on TRT did help with my libido, but not necessarily because it just made me horny in a physical sense. Remember the Wizard of Oz, when Dorothy goes from b/w Kansas to technicolor Oz? THAT was what going from 4ng/dl Testosterone to 150-200ng/dl Testosterone was like, and of COURSE, that raised my libido, because my whole world was better. But since medical studies can’t really quantify THAT, they can’t really prescribe for it on label.

My clitoris did swell a bit at first, but as I progress through peri, guess what, vaginal atrophy is a thing, and testosterone isn’t necessarily the answer for that. It may be PART of the answer, but topical vaginal estrogen cream has also shown to be one of the top go-to solutions for vaginal atrophy, which messes up not only our sex drive but also bladder function.

Your wife’s clitoris may grow a bit, but if she’s in peri, or close to meno, the T will likely simply prevent a complete atrophy and help keep things normal. And trust me, a slightly enlarged clitoris is not a bad thing at ALL if you, her partner, know how to love on it :)

As for E2, the timing of it matters. If women are already post menopausal by 10 years then exogenous E2 is not recommended, because their estrogen receptors have declined since they haven’t received any estrogen in a long time. However, if you’re peri or less than 10 years post menopausal, then E2 is neuroprotective, cardiovascular protective, bone protective, it goes on and on.

The Role of Estrogen Therapy as a Protective Factor for Alzheimer’s Disease and Dementia in Postmenopausal Women: A Comprehensive Review of the Literature​

This is a worthwhile read if you’re starting to dig in to hormone replacement for women when it comes to estrogen. Testosterone in many ways is an easy one; get on it, stay on it, forever. Continue to build muscle and avoid falling, so you don’t end up in the hospital with a broken hip, and then a nursing home. Pubmed has plenty of great recent studies posted about estrogen’s protective effects. The WHI study was a long time ago and fucked women for a long time wrt hormone replacement therapy.

International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health Clinical Practice Guideline for the Use of Systemic Testosterone for Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder in Women​

^this one is a good one to learn about the physiology of androgens in women. Yep, we make testosterone. Our OVARIES make it, as well as our adrenals. This article also does a good job of explaining how libido is in our brains (women) and how testosterone is a BRAIN hormone when it comes to libido. But it’s a lot more than that. This is from November 2023 and disputes some of the claims of the 2019 ‘global position statement’ on TRT for women.

TRT and HRT are a big thing right now for women. We don’t need to spend the second HALF of our lives stooped over, tired, devoid of muscle, and foggy brained. F that shit. Our moms never told us about this, our schools never told us about this, and even most of our gynos are woefully uneducated about it.
 
Nunya said:
Libido for women is a BRAIN thing. Testosterone is a human hormone, not just a male hormone, and not just a sex hormone. There are plenty of non-libido reasons to get on TRT for women, just as there are plenty of non-libido reasons to supplement estrogen as our ovaries stop making it.

Testosterone is approved for hypogonadism in males but just for ‘libido’ in women, which is retarded IMO; Testosterone helps women maintain bone mass, muscle mass, prevents cognitive decline, brain fog, prevents cardiovascular disease, etc.

Testosterone reduces our risk of breast cancer

Having said that, getting on TRT did help with my libido, but not necessarily because it just made me horny in a physical sense. Remember the Wizard of Oz, when Dorothy goes from b/w Kansas to technicolor Oz? THAT was what going from 4ng/dl Testosterone to 150-200ng/dl Testosterone was like, and of COURSE, that raised my libido, because my whole world was better. But since medical studies can’t really quantify THAT, they can’t really prescribe for it on label.

My clitoris did swell a bit at first, but as I progress through peri, guess what, vaginal atrophy is a thing, and testosterone isn’t necessarily the answer for that. It may be PART of the answer, but topical vaginal estrogen cream has also shown to be one of the top go-to solutions for vaginal atrophy, which messes up not only our sex drive but also bladder function.

Your wife’s clitoris may grow a bit, but if she’s in peri, or close to meno, the T will likely simply prevent a complete atrophy and help keep things normal. And trust me, a slightly enlarged clitoris is not a bad thing at ALL if you, her partner, know how to love on it :)

As for E2, the timing of it matters. If women are already post menopausal by 10 years then exogenous E2 is not recommended, because their estrogen receptors have declined since they haven’t received any estrogen in a long time. However, if you’re peri or less than 10 years post menopausal, then E2 is neuroprotective, cardiovascular protective, bone protective, it goes on and on.

The Role of Estrogen Therapy as a Protective Factor for Alzheimer’s Disease and Dementia in Postmenopausal Women: A Comprehensive Review of the Literature​

This is a worthwhile read if you’re starting to dig in to hormone replacement for women when it comes to estrogen. Testosterone in many ways is an easy one; get on it, stay on it, forever. Continue to build muscle and avoid falling, so you don’t end up in the hospital with a broken hip, and then a nursing home. Pubmed has plenty of great recent studies posted about estrogen’s protective effects. The WHI study was a long time ago and fucked women for a long time wrt hormone replacement therapy.

International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health Clinical Practice Guideline for the Use of Systemic Testosterone for Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder in Women​

^this one is a good one to learn about the physiology of androgens in women. Yep, we make testosterone. Our OVARIES make it, as well as our adrenals. This article also does a good job of explaining how libido is in our brains (women) and how testosterone is a BRAIN hormone when it comes to libido. But it’s a lot more than that. This is from November 2023 and disputes some of the claims of the 2019 ‘global position statement’ on TRT for women.

TRT and HRT are a big thing right now for women. We don’t need to spend the second HALF of our lives stooped over, tired, devoid of muscle, and foggy brained. F that shit. Our moms never told us about this, our schools never told us about this, and even most of our gynos are woefully uneducated about it.
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Extremely well done. Thank you.

Look at the absolute TT and E2 peak/mean levels in women as part of standardized reference range. Which hormone has a higher concentration?

That TRT is not FDA approved for women in US is comical.
 
Deezznutzz said:
Lots of women take 10-20 a week of cyp for libido. 20 being the max. If she needs 20 it usually swells the clit and it becomes more sensitive. It does go back to normal if you taper off the dose. My girl used to get it at a womens clinic. Now she just uses her own . She's 50 though. She likes 20 best. We tried 5 and 10 a week it doesn't do much. Only sides is a stray chin hair to pluck but at 50 those came natty also. Sometimes her libido still goes down though but its better on trt. Some of the best times we had was a day after her shot. She hates shots and only takes one dose once a week. I know that not the best way. If you look on reddit lots of females take 20 a week of cyp even though some say its too much. Maybe cause your not actually taking 20mg with the cyp oil.
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That is the same dose my wife takes of Test C. She does 2 x a week at 10 mg.
 
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