Will you get the covid vaccine ?

[No Gods No Masters]

This is an irrelevant argument....

It's not irrelevant. You just blew trillions of dollars and tanked an economy mostly because obese people have complications from covid.

I had COVID a few weeks ago, it wasn't bad and I'm not in all that great of health, same with my family.

The key is that none of my family are tubs of lard. Do you really want to spend 18% of your GDP on people that can't put down the fork.

Not one single mention of obesity being the main risk, it's just everyone rolls up their sleeve and takes the vaccine so Americans can continue stuffing their faces.

 

[BigDaddyV]

There's no vaccine to sell them for hunger.

....not yet anyway

 

[jJjburton]

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It's not irrelevant. You just blew trillions of dollars and tanked an economy mostly because obese people have complications from covid.

I had COVID a few weeks ago, it wasn't bad and I'm not in all that great of health, same with my family.

The key is that none of my family are tubs of lard. Do you really want to spend 18% of your GDP on people that can't put down the fork.

Not one single mention of obesity being the main risk, it's just everyone rolls up their sleeve and takes the vaccine so Americans can continue stuffing their faces.

its irrelavant. Is it the fork or depression that causes obesity? Or education level?

so you could link mental health to covid deaths. Along with the trillions of dollars lost.

Its the most irrelavant argument to make. As it is impossible to fix.
The government cant even fix and have people either where a mask or not wear a mask.

to many dumbasses. People who believe in their “rights”. I have the right to be a fat ass. So your obesity point is irrelavant and pointless.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

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its irrelavant. Is it the fork or depression that causes obesity? Or education level?

so you could link mental health to covid deaths. Along with the trillions of dollars lost.

Its the most irrelavant argument to make. As it is impossible to fix.
The government cant even fix and have people either where a mask or not wear a mask.

to many dumbasses. People who believe in their “rights”. I have the right to be a fat ass. So your obesity point is irrelavant and pointless.

I believe all people have the right to be a fat ass and they also have the right to die the natural death caused by such lifestyle without spending hundreds of billions to take care of them.

Depression and obesity on this scale, I call bullshit. Europeans laugh their asses off at us. When asked the first thing that comes to their minds when they think of Americans....Obesity.

You don't have to be from a high socioeconomic class to remain slim. I go back to the 70's when I grew up, men and women weren't fat like they are today and at $2-3/hr wage most people weren't well off or highly educated on the matter of nutrition(most people didn't know anything about nutrition) and yet they were slim. The foods back in the 70's weren't all that healthy, there was plenty of trans-fats, sugar cereals, fatty low quality meat. There was no such thing as a produce section like you'll find in today's grocery stores. If we wanted this kind of food we had to grow it in the garden ourselves. I think my entire childhood was eating chicken fried steak, fried potatoes onions, cream gravy, biscuits, and gallons of milk and yet I ended up at 18 years of age 6'2" 170lbs.

 

[rfan2020]

Every time they show a photo of someone that died of COVID online the first thing I take note of is how many hundreds of pounds overweight are they. When a family of 16 gets the illness and 8 of the die it's almost always an obese family.

It's like Al Gore when they asked about the link of over population and pollution, he ignored the question(because of politics), it's an obvious solution to the problem, but no one wants to confront truth anymore.

American pride is largely a creation of truth avoidance.

this is true. it's almost like a natural cull of the population. if people want to live long they need to wise up and stop being lazy. smoking a pack of day, being obese, than putting on a mask and saying "look at me im healthy" is idiocy.

 

[rfan2020]

It's not irrelevant. You just blew trillions of dollars and tanked an economy mostly because obese people have complications from covid.

I had COVID a few weeks ago, it wasn't bad and I'm not in all that great of health, same with my family.

The key is that none of my family are tubs of lard. Do you really want to spend 18% of your GDP on people that can't put down the fork.

Not one single mention of obesity being the main risk, it's just everyone rolls up their sleeve and takes the vaccine so Americans can continue stuffing their faces.

this is the truth, my tax dollars just paid for this stupid vaccine that no one would need if they took care of themselves. most obese aren't even big eaters, they literally are just too lazy to move so they get fat on 2k calories. its disgusting. I know a few people that wont even leave their house or get up and move at work and they stay fat and don't even eat. god forbid thy went for a walk thats too much effort, easier to sit on facebook all day and read about the 'deadly virus'

 

[No Gods No Masters]

this is the truth, my tax dollars just paid for this stupid vaccine that no one would need if they took care of themselves. most obese aren't even big eaters, they literally are just too lazy to move so they get fat on 2k calories. its disgusting. I know a few people that wont even leave their house or get up and move at work and they stay fat and don't even eat. god forbid thy went for a walk thats too much effort, easier to sit on facebook all day and read about the 'deadly virus'

I wonder what would have happened if when COVID hit our shores instead of operation warp speed, they instead said "We need to do something about these fatties".

Creating a task force, hiring tracers that GPS track obese people, tag and release, track their movements making sure they didn't go anywhere near a fast food place, we could have banded them for easy id so they couldn't buy junk food. Making it a felony to feed a lard ass.

 

[flenser]

There's no vaccine to sell them for hunger.

I suppose technically they are selling the COVID vaccines to alleviate hunger created by the COVID measures. It might even be used as an argument for mandatory vaccines - in effect, we must all be vaccinated so people won't starve.

 

[flenser]

I wonder what would have happened if when COVID hit our shores instead of operation warp speed, they instead said "We need to do something about these fatties".

Creating a task force, hiring tracers that GPS track obese people, tag and release, track their movements making sure they didn't go anywhere near a fast food place, we could have banded them for easy id so they couldn't buy junk food. Making it a felony to feed a lard ass.

I was going to click like on that, but then I realized I'm currently 20lbs overweight. I'm pretty sure if I can't regulate my eating, no one in the government will be able to do it. Well, short of a Mao or Stalin. Our next president is named Joe after all.

 

[flenser]

Is it just me, or does the photo of Astro Zeneca's product look just like a steroid UGL, complete with home printed labels???

Did you say Astro??

 

[MythotiK]

 

[flenser]

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That's fine until you have to take a flight that requires a vaccine records card, "I'm sorry sir, you appear to missing several required vaccinations for this flight". Some here in my office already have the cards. The airlines will definitely be asking for them.

 

[flenser]

Here's a scary precedent.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws. The Court's decision articulated the view that individual liberty is not absolute and is subject to the police power of the state.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts​

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[jJjburton]

This vaccine has so much less additives, and does not contain mercury or aluminum like other vaccines do. When other vaccines came out they helped alot of people, they had negative effects not from the vaccine itself but from the additives and preservatives they add. Not the actual anti virus part.

 

[ergomaniac]

Here's a scary precedent.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts​

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This a good interview imo. Dershowitz has said before that it is not constitutional to refuse a vaccine if mandated. He also kept his underwear on.
This incident is discussed and the outcome was that Jacobson only paid a fine. Who knows what will happen today. You would most likely be compelled to get it through restrictions that will make life difficult.

 

[flenser]

This a good interview imo. Dershowitz has said before that it is not constitutional to refuse a vaccine if mandated. He also kept his underwear on.
This incident is discussed and the outcome was that Jacobson only paid a fine. Who knows what will happen today. You would most likely be compelled to get it through restrictions that will make life difficult.

I'm sort of hoping they do try to make it mandatory. I'll set up a gofundme page to cover everyone's fine.

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

Canada won't be able to get vaccinated until fall 2021, so hopefully, it fucks everyone else up by then.

 

[MythotiK]

That's fine until you have to take a flight that requires a vaccine records card, "I'm sorry sir, you appear to missing several required vaccinations for this flight". Some here in my office already have the cards. The airlines will definitely be asking for them.

They should have an antibodies test, getting the vaccine or actually getting COVID yields the same result. IMO it’s better to get the actual virus.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Anyone studying up on the modes of action for the three major vaccines being offered?

Seems the mRNA suspended in nano particles or some other method of injecting mRNA into our cells to have us produce Spike protein antigens that allow our T and B lymphocytes to produce antibodies.

It would seem to me that the old days of making vaccines with spike protein particles and directly injecting them, having the body make antibodies to them are over.

We will now have to either use mRNA or a vector virus that is less pathogenic carrying the mRNA to infect our macrophages either cytoplasm or nucleus to have us produce our own viral spike proteins for our T/B Lymphocytes to produce antibodies against.

This to me is risky, I'm not sure that in the past we've ever done any of this past Chimp research.

Also I read the article exempting the vaccine companies from any liability until 2024 for this current vaccine approach so they have nothing to lose if they get it wrong.

Am I the the only one that sees this as foolish with Covid that has a 99.8% survival rate, and having had Covid myself I've had flu that was far worse.

WTF is going on, why push it it past the trial study this fast. This is batshit crazy.

 

[sinewave3]

Are the cards out yet? Anyone see one? Thinking that someone might have a profitable business making replica cards.