Wondering what you should run for your first cycle? Find your answers here.

Evom1

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Over the years I've seen hundreds of "what do you think of this for a first cycle" types of threads. In the majority of situations, the same basic first cycle is ideal for most people.

Setting aside your stats, because being a harm reduction board let's be honest here. If you tell us you're 20years old, or you're 180lbs or you've been training for a year .. .. We're going to tell you to wait and try to help you be safe.

So this post is assuming you're at a point where it's OK for you to start your first cycle. I'd love for more of the guys to chime in here so we can leave an educational thread that's easy for the new guys to find.

I'll lay out a basic cycle. Don't worry about adding dbol, deca or anything else this cycle. See how you respond to this by itself. Truthfully if your diet and training is on point, you will grow just as much off a basic test cycle.


Weeks 1-10 or 1-12
--500mg test c or test e split into 2 injections per week
--Aromasin or Arimidex on hand and use as needed.
--Hcg 250iu 2x per week

Pct
Dr Scally's POWER PCT
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day


I recommend using test c or e for your first cycle instead of test prop. Prop is likely to cause more post injection pain (pip) and requires more frequent injections.

I cannot urge strongly enough that you get your Aromasin, Arimidex, Nolva and Clomid as pharmaceutical and not from an underground lab. You do not want to take chances with your recovery or gyno. If you get bunk test... That's a bummer... You get bunk pct meds? Your dick may never work again. Please take this advice seriously, some of us have learned the hard way.

I also strongly recommend you get pre cycle blood work done, as well as blood work a bit after pct is completed. The reason for this is you want to know your baseline so that when you get your post cycle bloods done you know if you really are recovered. What if your test levels naturally are 1100 but your pct bloods show 750? You may think you recovered well when in reality you didn't. Or what if you fine out your cholesterol or liver values are bad and you're running a huge health risk starting a cycle?



Pins
Generally for most people, get 3cc syringes with 23g x 1" needle combo plus a box of 23g x 1" needle tips. No you may not draw your oil and inject with the same needle. Swap the needle after you draw. Do not ever take short cuts or risks when it comes to a sterile injection. Your needle tips are about $5 for 100x and your alcohol swabs are even cheaper.


If other members would like to add, that would be great. I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable on the board but I'd like there to be a good resource for the new guys to check out. I'm sure I missed something but if I catch it I'll fix it.
 
Yeah you can ask all you want and navigate through the honest answers and (imo, justified) shitstorm of abuse, or just take the time to read. It's part of my daily ritual to check the cycle logs, underground and steroid forums. As a result I know where I'll be ordering my pct from and have a few ugls I'm comfortable ordering gear from. I'm sure I'll still be asking questions and advice when the time comes but I think I have the basics covered.
 
Yeah you can ask all you want and navigate through the honest answers and (imo, justified) shitstorm of abuse, or just take the time to read. It's part of my daily ritual to check the cycle logs, underground and steroid forums. As a result I know where I'll be ordering my pct from and have a few ugls I'm comfortable ordering gear from. I'm sure I'll still be asking questions and advice when the time comes but I think I have the basics covered.

Good man. We'd have a lot less pointless threads if people took it upon themselves to do homework.
 
Over the years I've seen hundreds of "what do you think of this for a first cycle" types of threads. In the majority of situations, the same basic first cycle is ideal for most people.

Setting aside your stats, because being a harm reduction board let's be honest here. If you tell us you're 20years old, or you're 180lbs or you've been training for a year .. .. We're going to tell you to wait and try to help you be safe.

So this post is assuming you're at a point where it's OK for you to start your first cycle. I'd love for more of the guys to chime in here so we can leave an educational thread that's easy for the new guys to find.

I'll lay out a basic cycle. Don't worry about adding dbol, deca or anything else this cycle. See how you respond to this by itself. Truthfully if your diet and training is on point, you will grow just as much off a basic test cycle.


Weeks 1-10 or 1-12
--500mg test c or test e split into 2 injections per week
--Aromasin or Arimidex on hand and use as needed.
--Hcg 250iu 2x per week

Pct
Dr Scally's POWER PCT
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day


I recommend using test c or e for your first cycle instead of test prop. Prop is likely to cause more post injection pain (pip) and requires more frequent injections.

I cannot urge strongly enough that you get your Aromasin, Arimidex, Nolva and Clomid as pharmaceutical and not from an underground lab. You do not want to take chances with your recovery or gyno. If you get bunk test... That's a bummer... You get bunk pct meds? Your dick may never work again. Please take this advice seriously, some of us have learned the hard way.

I also strongly recommend you get pre cycle blood work done, as well as blood work a bit after pct is completed. The reason for this is you want to know your baseline so that when you get your post cycle bloods done you know if you really are recovered. What if your test levels naturally are 1100 but your pct bloods show 750? You may think you recovered well when in reality you didn't. Or what if you fine out your cholesterol or liver values are bad and you're running a huge health risk starting a cycle?



Pins
Generally for most people, get 3cc syringes with 23g x 1" needle combo plus a box of 23g x 1" needle tips. No you may not draw your oil and inject with the same needle. Swap the needle after you draw. Do not ever take short cuts or risks when it comes to a sterile injection. Your needle tips are about $5 for 100x and your alcohol swabs are even cheaper.


If other members would like to add, that would be great. I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable on the board but I'd like there to be a good resource for the new guys to check out. I'm sure I missed something but if I catch it I'll fix it.

Wait you mean no Dbol,Winny,Var, deca or Tren? Lol

I loved my first cycle. It was what you laid out except it was a little higher. Loved it!
 
This is bad advice! Test E has a half life of 6 days. 14-18 days is more like it homie.
Definitely not a month!!
Do the math, at 6 days your 500 is now 250 at 12 days it is 125 at 18 days it is half of that. That 500 from your first week rolls over every week. Only way to really know is to do blood work and see. You are tripping if you think all that test has cleared in 14 days. like I said you can think whatever you want. I would rather wait a little longer to ensure all the test has cleared than to start pct to early when test levels are to high to start recovery
 
Do the math, at 6 days your 500 is now 250 at 12 days it is 125 at 18 days it is half of that. That 500 from your first week rolls over every week. Only way to really know is to do blood work and see. You are tripping if you think all that test has cleared in 14 days.
One thing to take into consideration is the hcg blast initially in the power pct. Yes the synthetic test will be in your system but the hcg will get your natural production back into high gear. It's different than if you were just using Nolva and Clomid.

By 14 days the active amount of injected testosterone should be below what your natural levels should be, so at that point you can begin a bit of an overlap so to speak
 
Do the math, at 6 days your 500 is now 250 at 12 days it is 125 at 18 days it is half of that. That 500 from your first week rolls over every week. Only way to really know is to do blood work and see. You are tripping if you think all that test has cleared in 14 days. like I said you can think whatever you want. I would rather wait a little longer to ensure all the test has cleared than to start pct to early when test levels are to high to start recovery
Yeah at day 18 you would be at 62.5 mg. Which is low enough to start pct. Thanks for repeating what I said. Lol, it doesn’t have to be a zero percent to start pct.
 
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Yeah at day 18 you would be at 62.5 mg. Which is low enough to start pct. Thanks for repeating what I said. Lol, it doesn’t have to be a zero percent to start pct.
That is what would be left from your first week at 18 days. So adding another 500 the following week it builds up, and the next week and so on.
 
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That is what would be left from your first week at 18 days. So adding another 500 the following week it builds up, and the next week and so on.
The second to last pin would be 250mg by the time you pin the last shot your ruffley looking at 375mg-400mg. Six days later that is 200mg six days later that’s 100mg six days later 50mg. So between 14 -18 days is still a safe bet. Still not sure where your getting a month at?
 
Over the years I've seen hundreds of "what do you think of this for a first cycle" types of threads. In the majority of situations, the same basic first cycle is ideal for most people.

Setting aside your stats, because being a harm reduction board let's be honest here. If you tell us you're 20years old, or you're 180lbs or you've been training for a year .. .. We're going to tell you to wait and try to help you be safe.

So this post is assuming you're at a point where it's OK for you to start your first cycle. I'd love for more of the guys to chime in here so we can leave an educational thread that's easy for the new guys to find.

I'll lay out a basic cycle. Don't worry about adding dbol, deca or anything else this cycle. See how you respond to this by itself. Truthfully if your diet and training is on point, you will grow just as much off a basic test cycle.


Weeks 1-10 or 1-12
--500mg test c or test e split into 2 injections per week
--Aromasin or Arimidex on hand and use as needed.
--Hcg 250iu 2x per week

Pct
Dr Scally's POWER PCT
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day


I recommend using test c or e for your first cycle instead of test prop. Prop is likely to cause more post injection pain (pip) and requires more frequent injections.

I cannot urge strongly enough that you get your Aromasin, Arimidex, Nolva and Clomid as pharmaceutical and not from an underground lab. You do not want to take chances with your recovery or gyno. If you get bunk test... That's a bummer... You get bunk pct meds? Your dick may never work again. Please take this advice seriously, some of us have learned the hard way.

I also strongly recommend you get pre cycle blood work done, as well as blood work a bit after pct is completed. The reason for this is you want to know your baseline so that when you get your post cycle bloods done you know if you really are recovered. What if your test levels naturally are 1100 but your pct bloods show 750? You may think you recovered well when in reality you didn't. Or what if you fine out your cholesterol or liver values are bad and you're running a huge health risk starting a cycle?



Pins
Generally for most people, get 3cc syringes with 23g x 1" needle combo plus a box of 23g x 1" needle tips. No you may not draw your oil and inject with the same needle. Swap the needle after you draw. Do not ever take short cuts or risks when it comes to a sterile injection. Your needle tips are about $5 for 100x and your alcohol swabs are even cheaper.


If other members would like to add, that would be great. I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable on the board but I'd like there to be a good resource for the new guys to check out. I'm sure I missed something but if I catch it I'll fix it.

How do you get a prescription for an AI? I've always used my source for AI's but you are right about not wanting a bunk AI.
 
How do you get a prescription for an AI? I've always used my source for AI's but you are right about not wanting a bunk AI.
There's multiple sources in the underground with years of good track records for getting pharma stuff. One pharmacist in particular will never let you down ;)
 
I'm a noob member browsing this forum, keeping on top of sources and educating myself till i take the plunge. The cycle you laid out is what I'll be doing.

Take the part where he mentions having your AI and PCT meds ON HAND before you start the cycle. 100% Pharma products ONLY!

I don’t care how cheap a specific UGLs arimidex or nolva is, fuck that. Pharma only!
 
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