Word of advice on Sub Q

[hijoshiki]

After injecting for the past 15 years perhaps thousands of times I finally got an abscess and it had to be Sub Q.

After two months the site is finally healing and shrinking.

Started with swelling, redness, progressed to extreme sensitivity with movement, turned red, gray then lightly black.

Drained first with 16g needle. Eventually made an incision about 1/2" with exacto knife sterilized. Felt nothing while cutting or probing with needle to drain, the tissue was basically dead.

What I have now is a 3x1" lump of tissue that is hard as a rock, it is slowly shrinking and now has zero pain. No antibiotics used at all.

Abscesses wall off the offending substance or organism so little to no risk of septicemia.

The problem is that this can and does lead to Fibrosis as the protein, fibrin, white cells, debris and tissue killed off form into a hard capsule.


What I recommend. Don't do Sub Q injections with anything other than very small quantities such as a 0.1 cc as I suspect my tissue and fat cells had more a reaction then a true microbial abscess as there was no warmth at the site of injection, just pain and swelling that lasted for weeks until I decided to drain it.

 

[VenomYo]

"Started with swelling, redness, progressed to extreme sensitivity with movement, turned red, gray then lightly black."
i get that weekly with subq, and it always goes back to normal within a week, but instead of lightly black its more red to purple, which yours probably was aswell. What made you qualify it to be an abscess was the skin indented or did you see a doc about it?
but that whole swelling tenderness thing happens just as much with IM injections, you just cant see it
and if you truly had an abscess, youre lucky it was subq and not IM

ive injected 0.5ml subq for a long time, but i agree 0.1-0.15ml doses is the way to go.

you make alot of assumptions about whats going on and ive never seen someone not be scolded when they try to drain an injection site without a doc

 

[hijoshiki]

"Started with swelling, redness, progressed to extreme sensitivity with movement, turned red, gray then lightly black."
i get that weekly with subq, and it always goes back to normal within a week, but instead of lightly black its more red to purple, which yours probably was aswell. What made you qualify it to be an abscess was the skin indented or did you see a doc about it?
but that whole swelling tenderness thing happens just as much with IM injections, you just cant see it
and if you truly had an abscess, youre lucky it was subq and not IM

ive injected 0.5ml subq for a long time, but i agree 0.1-0.15ml doses is the way to go.

you make alot of assumptions about whats going on and ive never seen someone not be scolded when they try to drain an injection site without a doc

I've had lots of sub-q lumps and pip reactions like you're talking about.

This was a whole other level. The site was swelling to the point it was indenting the skin. Comparing both sides of my body I could see the side with the abscess was very swollen and when feeling it the tissue obviously had fluid building up.

It started as a small lump and then it started spreading getting bigger and bigger and expanding in length. This was going on over a period of 6 weeks before I finally drained it because I couldn't take the pain any more. When I cut it I knew something was wrong because I didn't feel anything, I was jabbing and probing and felt nothing at all and even I was cringing before I plunged the knife in thinking to myself this is crazy, but it helped it heal much faster once I drained it.

 

[Demondosage]

Vials say “intramuscular injection” for a reason, fuck sub q

 

[Regular Joe]

"Started with swelling, redness, progressed to extreme sensitivity with movement, turned red, gray then lightly black."
i get that weekly with subq, and it always goes back to normal within a week, but instead of lightly black its more red to purple, which yours probably was aswell. What made you qualify it to be an abscess was the skin indented or did you see a doc about it?
but that whole swelling tenderness thing happens just as much with IM injections, you just cant see it
and if you truly had an abscess, youre lucky it was subq and not IM

ive injected 0.5ml subq for a long time, but i agree 0.1-0.15ml doses is the way to go.

you make alot of assumptions about whats going on and ive never seen someone not be scolded when they try to drain an injection site without a doc

If you keep getting painful discolored lumps from sub-q, why do you keep doing it that way?

 

[WannaBeBIG]

That sucks you had such a bad reaction to sub q injection. I’ve had zero issues over the years with probably close to 1ml injected more than once. Only thing I’ve seen out of place is a slightly bruised lump that was only noticeable to the touch.

I usually inject anything more than 0.5ml IM these days.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Damn! I hope this never happens to me. I sub q everything...

 

[T&H]

I did sub q a few times. Till I ended up with what I believe was an abscess about 5 inches long by 2 inches wide. Hard as a rock, warm, took over a month to dissipate. Never again.

Hate to hear you had to deal with this brother.

 

[Regular Joe]

That sucks you had such a bad reaction to sub q injection. I’ve had zero issues over the years with probably close to 1ml injected more than once. Only thing I’ve seen out of place is a slightly bruised lump that was only noticeable to the touch.

I usually inject anything more than 0.5ml IM these days.

Where do you inject? You never have bruised lumps? I've had lumps that lasted weeks

 

[combover]

I used to get the standard lumps with .3-.5 ml with gso. When I switched to mct, the lumps lasted longer. Haven't pinnednsubq in quite a while, but wouldn't be opposed to it.

 

[MFAAS]

I hate subq, it is just awful. I hope you full heal up brother.

It might be worth pinning some BPC-157 in the meantime to promote healing. Idk though.

 

[barbell001]

Sub Q is basically the lazy mans way to not have to inject deep into a muscle and do things properly, how on earth is a testosterone deposit suppose to disperse as it should over time when it is in skin or fat? The whole idea of it going deep into muscle is that the hormone disperses over a set time via the blood supply of the surrounding veins running through the muscle.

 

[ManK]

After injecting for the past 15 years perhaps thousands of times I finally got an abscess and it had to be Sub Q.

After two months the site is finally healing and shrinking.

Started with swelling, redness, progressed to extreme sensitivity with movement, turned red, gray then lightly black.

Drained first with 16g needle. Eventually made an incision about 1/2" with exacto knife sterilized. Felt nothing while cutting or probing with needle to drain, the tissue was basically dead.

What I have now is a 3x1" lump of tissue that is hard as a rock, it is slowly shrinking and now has zero pain. No antibiotics used at all.

Abscesses wall off the offending substance or organism so little to no risk of septicemia.

The problem is that this can and does lead to Fibrosis as the protein, fibrin, white cells, debris and tissue killed off form into a hard capsule.


What I recommend. Don't do Sub Q injections with anything other than very small quantities such as a 0.1 cc as I suspect my tissue and fat cells had more a reaction then a true microbial abscess as there was no warmth at the site of injection, just pain and swelling that lasted for weeks until I decided to drain it.

i made trt sub q without any problem for 3 and more years.
never injected more then 0.2 2 times each week.
I don't inject in abdomen but in the high gluteus, with a 8mm needle 30 gauge....