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Worth trying to restart hpta?

Theworm

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Long story, 38 on trt for 6 months now. I'm on cause of deca.
After each cycle I check labs and a month or two off of pct my TT is 150. My last cycle I did 600 deca (along with test). I came off and 2-3 months later my TT was 17! I was depressed and felt like shit. So I saw an endo and they put me on trt. Feel great on it but was wondering if a HPTA would be worth doing?
I would like to not be on trt forever but yet I'm fine with it. It's not a big deal but injecting every 3 days isn't the best.
I just wanted to see if I could recover on my own
But then I'm most likely going to use again and since I love deca why should I even try this?
Maybe if my levels go towards normal off I could avoid deca and do short cycles with short esters.
Thoughts on this? Not sure why I'm scattered brains about this.
 
Just to see what my natural levels really are. I haven't used nandrolone in months... like to bring my balls back on line and go natural for a while. I like the idea of natural but I know how stupid that is cause I most likely will cycle again
 
At 38 and with the intention of continuing to cycle I have no idea why you would.

If you were going to stop cycling then sure. But if you simply intend to continue the practice that has likely already caused significant Leydig cell damage...?
 
Imo. If you are on legit trt then stay on for life. If you feel like a blast then go for it and come back down to trt cruise afterwards...
 
Bullet train said:
No point bro, just blast and cruise.
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I agree with this, I guess it's pointless to come off and feel like shit and depressed for 2-3 months only to get back on...
I guess I like the idea of coming off and being natural and not worry about an AI and cholesterol issues etc. but it may be unhealthy to drop to no test for months on end
 
I've been doing daily sub q shots of 10mg. No AI needed.
TT is about 450.
Bioavailable is at the top end. My doc doesn't check free test.

These are the numbers I had in my 20's.
 
Slab said:
I've been doing daily sub q shots of 10mg. No AI needed.
TT is about 450.
Bioavailable is at the top end. My doc doesn't check free test.

These are the numbers I had in my 20's.
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I do 30 mg every 3 days... no AI needed

Do you do hcg as well? I do 200iu every 4 days
 
Theworm said:
Long story, 38 on trt for 6 months now. I'm on cause of deca.
After each cycle I check labs and a month or two off of pct my TT is 150. My last cycle I did 600 deca (along with test). I came off and 2-3 months later my TT was 17! I was depressed and felt like shit. So I saw an endo and they put me on trt. Feel great on it but was wondering if a HPTA would be worth doing?
I would like to not be on trt forever but yet I'm fine with it. It's not a big deal but injecting every 3 days isn't the best.
I just wanted to see if I could recover on my own
But then I'm most likely going to use again and since I love deca why should I even try this?
Maybe if my levels go towards normal off I could avoid deca and do short cycles with short esters.
Thoughts on this? Not sure why I'm scattered brains about this.
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I say yes
1 Testis make several beneficial substances besides Test, i.e. Pregnenolone comes to mind.

2 Small testis feel painful and awkward.

3 HCG is cheap and safe for long term use.

Keep in mind that it's harder to restart Testis to make Test/sperm, than it's restarting pituitary to make LH/FSH.
 
master.on said:
I say yes
1 Testis make several beneficial substances besides Test, i.e. Pregnenolone comes to mind.

2 Small testis feel painful and awkward.

3 HCG is cheap and safe for long term use.

Keep in mind that it's harder to restart Testis to make Test/sperm, than it's restarting pituitary to make LH/FSH.
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Yes as in restart?

But I read studies that show low or zero test leads to major cardiac events
 
master.on said:
I say yes
1 Testis make several beneficial substances besides Test, i.e. Pregnenolone comes to mind.

2 Small testis feel painful and awkward.

3 HCG is cheap and safe for long term use.

Keep in mind that it's harder to restart Testis to make Test/sperm, than it's restarting pituitary to make LH/FSH.
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I know testes produce other hormones but wouldn't hcg during trt do the same?
 
Why are you pinning every 3 days OP?
You should be using cyp which would give you weekly or bi-weekly injections.

@Big_paul uses Test D and pins once a month I think?
 
Sk8man101 said:
Why are you pinning every 3 days OP?
You should be using cyp which would give you weekly or bi-weekly injections.

@Big_paul uses Test D and pins once a month I think?
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Gives me very stable levels. If I did once a week my levels are high Day 1 then drop by Day 6....
I.e. It gives my levels around 400 or so every day, not 500 day 1 then 350 day 6
 
HIGHRISK said:
Not being a dick but I'm not sure you can come off a cycle or many cycles and say
"I'm Natural now" jmo
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What's the difference? I'm not competing etc.
my definition of going natural is getting off anabolic steroids. I.e. Let my natural test come back on line.
I'm not competing in natural BB contests...
 
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