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Would anavar cause acne?
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hurricane
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There really isn't a yes or no answer to your question. Anavar may cause acne and it may not. Only way to find out is to actually run it.
Can I ask why you're not running test with your Anavar?
Can I ask why you're not running test with your Anavar?
Hesoprimaltho
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Yeah don't do var only. If you're not willing to pin test then steroids aren't for you friend.
fike
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It hasn't ever given me issues, but I'm also not very prone to acne and other DHT related side effects. Genetics is a son of a bitch. I'm sure it all depends on your predisposition to getting acne, skin type, and the way your body handles DHT derivatives. The only time I've encountered any issues from anabolic use was a few years ago when I tried YK-11. It made my back and chest break out pretty bad, but cleared up within a week of discontinuing its use.
What's bad with anavar only?
I'm new to this stuff so I thought about starting with something mild. I didn't know you needed to run test with anavar.
Hesoprimaltho
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anavar is a synthetic version of testosterone. In the presence of it in your body you will stop producing testosterone on your own. Yes anavar is significantly more anabolic than androgenic, however its still considered a very "weak" compound comparatively. If you run anavar only you are shutting down your natural production, which (although unlikely, still possible) could potentially take a very very long time, or even never, recover fully, EVEN WITH A PROPER PCT PROTOCOL. Shutting yourself down, even in best case scenario where you recover fully within 6 months or so post-cycle, for gains that are easily attainable with discipline, is a zero-sum-gain scenario. The risk far outweighs the benefit. test only first, then pct, then test + var second cycle. Dont be a fool and listen to the influencers on youtube who advocate for this shit, they're just trying to retain a following from newbies and a broader demographic of folks who are uncomfortable w/ the idea of injecting steroids but still interested in this type of thing. They dont care about your potential life long issues resulting from their "expert" advice.
Hesoprimaltho
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I just read your post history, and I'm feeling good today so Ill spend a moment giving you some advice that you should take to heart:
Go back and read the "new members start here" sticky thoroughly, and then proceed to do as it suggests and update your introduction with enough information that kind knowledgeable folks on the internet could conceivably use to offer you good advice. This consists of your training history, your current stats, your general diet, etc. Without that in the least how could you expect any advice that would be of value, tailored to your specific circumstances? Use the forum in the manner in which its intended, utilizing the search function to see if previous threads exist regarding any questions you may have, before you get involved with this stuff you should spend .a.lot. of time researching and being fully aware of what you're potentially involving yourself with. Steroids .are.not. magic, nothing will get you a "shredded physique without losing muscle or hair" as you mentioned elsewhere except hard work and discipline. There are things that can help, but remember that everyone eventually pays their tab, so to speak. If you spend time doing research, as you stated you needed elsewhere, and use the site as intended, keep the ego in check, and actually listen to people who know whats up, then you'll do fine... Don't be hasty, and remember to have fun because its about improving yourself dude. If you disregard this advice and ask redundant questions that show little commitment to actually becoming knowledgeable before wasting peoples time with stuff thats been covered 1000 times previously, and then get cocky when people point that out to you (it happens, a lot), then people in this community will ostracize you and pick on you. Take it slow, this is a huge step in your life you're considering taking, and its certainly not for everyone. Theres only so many times folks around here will take the time to even write something like this instead of ignoring the thread completely, and I myself even tire of it as of late, but I remember being in this same place once upon a time, and sometimes some friendly guidance can make all the difference. Good luck duder.
Just gonna leave this here:
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Anavar ain't so bad tbh but without a test base it's not so ideal. Anyway if you plan on starting steroids then acne is the least of your concerns.
As for how supressive Anavar is... I think bro science literally is all over the place. Your best reference should be data from medical studies
To which Anavar is pretty well researched.
A (high dose) 80 mg oxandrolone daily x 12 weeks led to a mere 31% decrease in free T in HIV-infected men:
Oxandrolone in the Treatment of HIV-Associated Weight Loss... : JAIDS Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes
Ultimately dyor and make the decision yourself. Don't trust anyone who doesn't have proper data to back their claims. Their intentions might be good but their advice is usually based on personal beliefs
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This is the case for me.
If you’re acne prone its genetic, tinkering with your hormones is likely going to trigger more issues.
Also, just a heads up. I like Mike Isratel, but he’s just wrong on this one. Oral only cycles are for female athletes. If you’re wanting to run gear do it properly, otherwise it’s not worth the trade offs involved. Just maximize your natural gains and you don’t have to deal with all the baggage that comes along with running gear.
I beg to differ, I think Dr Mike's logic is sound and his position on this matter valid against the common advice that most give.
His argument is that orals provide beginners an easy 'dip your toes in' introduction to anabolics without the commitment and hassle of having to figure out injections and a PCT protocol.
Sure it wont be optimal but it would definitely give guys a good idea of what it feels like to be 'on cycle' without having to inject testosterone and be strongly suppressed for weeks. (The shorter half-lifes of oral compounds are a plus here)
The fact that most people complain about how dissatisfying oral cycles are is another hurdle that I think any beginner should be able to accept and deal with.. (In a normal cycle you'd also have to learn dialing in your e2 with AI's or other compounds... it ain't a walk in the park)
Dr Mike's argument can also be supplemented with external data with regards to individual compound suppression and consequently oral compound choice. A few week's dose of orals won't likely suppress you as much as a few week's worth of testosterone injections. So the bro science that orals are as suppressive as injectables get thrown out of the window pretty easily.
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I definitely understand and appreciate the difference in opinion.
Life is about trade offs. The fact that it’s such an easy way to “dip your toe in” is exactly why I think it’s awful. Using aas isn’t something that should be so insignificant a decision.
Taking a pill is too easy, and things that are quick and easy lead to issues more often.
No, you will probably get the complete opposite effect. People who have no background in biochemistry will have you believe anything that says "derivative of" must mean it acts like the parent molecule. testosterone is one of the derivatives of estradiol.
Organic chemistry = yes the molecules look very similar in structure, but an added atom here or there, a different charge across an aromatic structure can completely change what the molecule does and what receptor it binds to. You have a repeated theme through biochemistry and pharmacology of similar molecules binding to a specific receptor and being an inverse agonist simply due to the fact it is occupying that receptor.
Sterioisomer's are even closer in structure (mirror image of one another) yet with something as common as Clomiphene you can see the mirror images of one another have completely different physiological effects.
I did a Var only cycle in my late 20's, adding even 150mgs-200mgs a week of test would be a huge improvement. I got scary strong within 8-10 weeks with very little muscle gain. The pumps get so dense they hurt, which would correspond to the thoughts of the compound having a physiology thought to alter creatine pathways. The drug was different than many compounds with the switch turning on only after 4-5 weeks of taking it. Great drug for power-lifters or athletes not wanting to gain weight.
I have always been unorthodox when it comes to AAS use; lower doses, really short cycles no gains that I couldnt hold on with the twins. This drug is the only compound that I have run which I felt it needed something more added to it. The gains with regards to reps, volume and strength did not equate to what I was seeing in the mirror
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