Damn i didn't noticed it until i read your post, i was like who are all these people i don't remember anyone lol
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WTF's up with my Test Enth...
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Damn i didn't noticed it until i read your post, i was like who are all these people i don't remember anyone lol
dontletheoldmanin
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Haha well atleast it's a good thread.
bigpoppachump2
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I know this is an old thread but this topic has popped back up time and time again and I think it’s a problem with the Chinese raw manufactures. It seems like every few months to every other year there is a bunch of test e raws that go out that cause pip for many people in the underground scene and then like magic the issues goes away again only to pop back up again like clockwork.
bigpoppachump2
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Case in point: my first 2 cycles and the first couple years I was on self administered TRT I used test e brewed from India manufactured raws and didn’t have any issue with pip, fever, swelling etc but everytime I’ve tried test e since (using Chinese raws) it’s been horrible experience after horrible experience.
dontletheoldmanin
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It's interesting I use China oils for test e, not pip at all. Working well
bigpoppachump2
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I don’t think it’s something that effects every all at once I just think something in their process isn’t standardized and maybe it’s one particular chemical or solvent that is used in a higher or lower concentration that negatively affects guys like me.
bigpoppachump2
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A few months ago I’d ran out of Stan’s test cyp I was using for trt since 2020 and bought some local gym brew test e from a buddy to hold me over until I was able to find a new supplier (I really didn’t think Stan would still be in business). This stuff was toxic for me. I swelled up every injection and became feverish and lethargic for days until the swelling went down. The only way I could tolerate it was with micro subcutaneous injections daily and had to cut it down to 70mg a week. I got ahold of some test cyp from pharmacom a couple weeks ago and gave him the test e I had left over and he’s been injecting it ever since with zero issues.
Astartes
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It’s the Esther. Particularly when pain is greatest 2nd or 3rd day afternoon and solvents have been absorbed.
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
Why would it be the ester?
I can inject Mast E with no issues? its clearly the manufacturing process
Astartes
Well-known Member
Correct. Test E. (I was defining those manufacturing issues over last 5 - 8 years with PIP on Test E)
Rippidy Dippidy
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Let’s build a Time Machine and send that
knucklesamich
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This- Last batch of Test E I had HURT LIKE HELL. Brewed up some Test Cyp, painless. Same BA and BB percentages, same carrier oil, same sanitization technique, same filtration, same everything. No more Test E for this guy, I'm no wuss, but damn, that shit has heptanoic acid in it on accident, forget about it, it's debilitating. Worse than the pain from DHB pip.heptanoic acid in the raws.
A supposedly very PIP inducing raw powder of testosterone enanthate has been received.
Analysis for heptanoic acid yielded negative result, so I decided to dig deeper and a massive contamination of testosterone enanthate with.... testosterone enanthate was found.
However not the usual kind, but delta 6 testosterone enanthate, which is listed, at least in European Pharmacopoeia, as "Impurity F" with maximum permissible limit of 0.3%.
In this case, by very brute approximation, 15.46% of delta 6 testosterone enanthate was found.
dontletheoldmanin
Member
and yet my Test Enanthate is just fine, no issues at all.
knucklesamich
New Member
Is what you have home brew or from a UGL? I think some batches from UGLs are from different raw powder sources and come from different places. Yours could be from some place where they were careful not to allow the heptanoic acid to be present--I hear it's from a cleaning process, but I could be wrong.
If it's a home brew you have (cheers, this is the way I roll), the raws you got could be from a batch that was never tainted. I believe years ago, I acquired Test E (I hear it has a little more bang for the buck--the esther is a little shorter, so you get more Test per mg), and I had zero issues. Then a few years later, I purchased more (I just home brew, no sales here), but substantially more just to have enough to last years. Not only did it melt, it was also a pippy nightmare. My buddy did his first cycle on it and was like, "Dude is it supposed to hurt this much?" I'm like, "Fuck no man, no no no, something is wrong." Poor guy lol, we switched to Cyp and I am friggin affraid to go back lmao.
dontletheoldmanin
Member
It's from ugl China stuff. I overlooked you were talking about raws and mixing yourself.
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
Some people just don't tolerate test e.
I can't hang with it
No reason to ever use it with test C available.
