xtreme dmz cycle and pct

Pete99

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Hi, ok I did buy this product on impulse. I have now researched it and I dont think it is the best cycle for a first time cycle? What would be the ideal cycle for a first time cycle? I am 160lb been training for a few years and want to get bigger but not massive. I am 5,9 btw. tbh I wouldnt ant to inject but am open to that. Guys what should I do to help.

Many thanks Pete
 
Hi, ok I did buy this product on impulse. I have now researched it and I dont think it is the best cycle for a first time cycle? What would be the ideal cycle for a first time cycle? I am 160lb been training for a few years and want to get bigger but not massive. I am 5,9 btw. tbh I wouldnt ant to inject but am open to that. Guys what should I do to help.

Many thanks Pete

Testosterone any ester 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks.

Optional Dbol kickstart for 4 weeks @ 30mg/day.
 
You need to do something anabolic to your body to stimulate growth.

Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!
Eat, Sleep, Train, Repeat!

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Thankyou, so you do not think oral tabs are safe? I really need some advice on this as i am a complete novice when it comes to steriods. I would really appreciate your advice on pct also.
 
Thanks Gunrunner but I have been doing that for years! I just thought I might get a littlet helping hand but inexperieneced, I appreciate your advice though. Is there anything else you could advise?
 
Pete. We would like to help.

But you are a long ways away. You need to do a lot of reading. Come back and ask some more specific questions.

Just asking us to design a cycle, shows you haven't been reading for long enough.
 
Ok agree, where can I find a good reading website etc to research? I have only contemplated this and would never do anything because of what it says on the bottle. I just need some advice for a first cycle. I have done research because I know that tablets are probably not the best way, also dmz is probably not the best for a first cycle. I have tried researching pct and all I see is you need Ai? not sure what that is or a serm or when you use that, just a link to some advice or advice here wold be good, sorry for being a newbie but aprecite any advice, thanks pete
 
Thankyou, so you do not think oral tabs are safe? I really need some advice on this as i am a complete novice when it comes to steriods. I would really appreciate your advice on pct also.


Injectables are the way to go and Testosterone should usually be the base of your cycles. So Injectable Test is best. Orals are hard on the liver, have a short half life so levels in your body will fluctate up and down. Orals are best when added with Test injections. Orals do enter the bloodstream fast and that is one of the reasons to add them in at the beggining of a cycle. That way you get the effect sooner instead of waiting for the injectables to kick in which is about 3-4 weeks for long esters like Cypionate and Enanathate.

What Stretch laid out for you is the basic begginer cycle. Future cycles will be this same cycle with maybe a little extra gear added or up the dossage some.
 
Ok agree, where can I find a good reading website etc to research? I have only contemplated this and would never do anything because of what it says on the bottle. I just need some advice for a first cycle. I have done research because I know that tablets are probably not the best way, also dmz is probably not the best for a first cycle. I have tried researching pct and all I see is you need Ai? not sure what that is or a serm or when you use that, just a link to some advice or advice here wold be good, sorry for being a newbie but aprecite any advice, thanks pete

This is the best place to learn. Look at the top of the page where it says "STEROID ARTICLES" and "STEROID PROFILES"

You can start there. But remember...those articles aren't concrete facts. Take what you read with a grain of salt, and if you read something that conflicts what you read elsewhere. Then use the "search" feature. And search for terms. Play around with the search feature, having the results displayed as "threads" or "individual posts". You will get better and better at finding the information you are looking for.

We can tell the difference between someone who has stayed up reading all night, and is now at their "wits end" looking for an answer; and the guy who just wants to be spoonfed the information without doing any real research.
 
Ok agree, where can I find a good reading website etc to research? I have only contemplated this and would never do anything because of what it says on the bottle. I just need some advice for a first cycle. I have done research because I know that tablets are probably not the best way, also dmz is probably not the best for a first cycle. I have tried researching pct and all I see is you need Ai? not sure what that is or a serm or when you use that, just a link to some advice or advice here wold be good, sorry for being a newbie but aprecite any advice, thanks pete


Pete, you need to take your time and research this more. Stretch laid out a basic cycle for you which I agree with but there are a lot of other items. What other gear do you need? Why do you need AIs and SERMS? How about getting lab work done? How do you inject? What is PCT? You can search all this info right on this website. "Think" Steroids.
 
Pete,
Another tool I have found is to click on a Veteran name or trusted senior member (hint you were just helped by two of the best) and view all post by this member. Its a little stalkerish but Stretch in particular has asked and or answered most of the questions you will have. You will find that some things are subjective and different opinions abound.
Enjoy and welcome to Meso
 
I was educated before i came here but when i came here i started from scratch because i not having good turns so i started at steriod profiles and researched every AAS all over again what they are what they stack with etc etc .Then i read articles and facts . Then i researched others cycles ,then i took what i looked like and what kind of outcome i wanted and started there .You need to look at all of it research everything it takes time yes but its worth it i mean everything PCT`s ,Fatloss ,libido, diet ,develop a routine ,even if you think you know you dont know ...
 
super dmz is a designer steroid I believe and used alone will give you strength gains at best but in the long run you will have dry joints and a shity temperment.As everyone stated the test base will be a blessing for many reasons(that's for you to research.Now if I were to use a designer oral alone it would be superdrol or epidrol.They have a proven track record and do work.That being said if you find it hard to pin or aquire a test base there is an option.Trestabol is a compound that has been doing well as a base and it can be used transdermal with good success.But honestly using an oral alone will be fun at first for you but in the end you will likely not hold on to the gains and have green piss... I was one who went down the prohormone and designer steroid road early on and cant say it was worth any of it.Orals should only be a kickstart to a cycle as others have stated.Ive seen many do orals alone with a 20/20/20/20 protocol using nova but it still is a dreadful cycle most of the time going that route.epidrol and superdrol yielded great strength gains that I kept but muscle gains from those just never stuck around for me until I learned to use a base.
 
Thank you for your help on this subject, I have been researching more since joining the site and I now know that test is definitely yhe base(even though I would inject lol) im still researching and have chucked my dmz away as not proven, I will take your advice and research this too as I want to get my first cycle correct. I know this is a difficult question because there is no cycle to start but what would be a good pct for test and dbol ?because that's what im thinking now. Thanks in advance pete
 
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