xyosted - subcutaneous injections

[ocman]

What are your thoughts on the testosterone enanthate subcutaneous injections with an epi-pen vs intra-muscular injections.

Supposedly the xyosted will keep your testosterone levels more even.

Low Testosterone In Men | About XYOSTED® (testosterone enanthate)


 

[Eman]

Lots of guys move to subq pins for TRT. I think it's a valid idea to consider... Scar tissue from so much IM pinning alone is a good reason to consider it.

The stable blood level argument is arguable though, hormone levels don't need to be a perfectly straight line so I don't really see a huge benefit over IM pins there.

 

[ManK]

i use stay on trt subq (not xiosted, is not yet available in my country) since one year: i find it really better then classic IM trt: i need less test to have same TT value exactly as showed by many recent study.

 

[TRT@40]

i use stay on trt subq (not xiosted, is not yet available in my country) since one year: i find it really better then classic IM trt: i need less test to have same TT value exactly as showed by many recent study.

I started to use trt dose test sub-q for the reason of reducing scar tissue as @Eman mentioned above.
Can you share any of the "many recent study" you are referring to? I am always interested in reading scientific literature on these topics

 

[ManK]

A 52-Week Study of Dose Adjusted Subcutaneous Testosterone Enanthate in Oil Self-Administered via Disposable Auto-Injector - PubMed

Safety of a New Subcutaneous Testosterone Enanthate Auto-Injector: Results of a 26-Week Study - ScienceDirect

Subcutaneous Injection of Testosterone Is an Effective and Preferred Alternative to Intramuscular Injection: Demonstration in Female-to-Male Transgender Patients

Subcutaneous vs. Intramuscular Testosterone - Study Results - ClinicalTrials.gov

Missouri Society of Health-System Pharmacists - Featured Clinical Topic-Endocrinology: Subcutaneous Administration of Testosterone as an Alternative to Intramuscular Injection (here many other study)

(PDF) Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report

Pharmacokinetics and Acceptability of Subcutaneous Injection of Testosterone Undecanoate

(this is 2019)

Serum Testosterone Concentrations Remain Stable Between Injections in Patients Receiving Subcutaneous Testosterone

(this last talk abaut more stable levels)

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I wish I could subq without ridiculous pain and welts.

 

[ManK]

I wish I could subq without ridiculous pain and welts.

i had that problem using abdominal area. I totally solved injecting in the fat on high lateral glute

 

[ocman]

The stable blood level argument is arguable though, hormone levels don't need to be a perfectly straight line so I don't really see a huge benefit over IM pins there.

I was thinking stable hormone levels would help keep insulin levels stable.

 

[ManK]

i dont know, but i know that testosterone undecaonate give more stable level because give less peak, and testosterone undecaonate from many study give less hematocrit problems the enanthate or cypionate, so i try use enanthate or cypionate in the best way o allow more stable level and less peak.

 

[ocman]

Good to know, there's also Jatenzo to consider:

Oral Testosterone Treatment | JATENZO® (testosterone undecanoate) CIII

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

i had that problem using abdominal area. I totally solved injecting in the fat on high lateral glute

If I was doing sub q I’d stick it in my glute every time. The belly shots make me squirm and I have 0 issues pinning.

 

[TRT@40]

I wish I could subq without ridiculous pain and welts.

2 pointers to help with the pain and welts, based on my experience with RX test e, UGL testcyp and my own brew of testcyp:
1) start with 0.3 ml to 0.5 ml; anything more than 0.7ml gives a little pip
2) if you are having problems with subq injections, try pharma grade; i had noticeable pip with UGL testcyp but no issues with RX test e

I have brewed my own testcyp, amongst other aas, with only pharma grade ingredients (of course, except for the raws) and being very anal about keeping everything sterile and clean, for every step of the brewing. and it was just as good as RX test e in terms of pip, welts, lumps etc...

When you brew your own, you can experiment with different oils (mct, gso, eo, mig840, guac etc...) and different percentages of BA/BB to see what is the best solution...

 

[Silentlemon1011]

2 pointers to help with the pain and welts, based on my experience with RX test e, UGL testcyp and my own brew of testcyp:
1) start with 0.3 ml to 0.5 ml; anything more than 0.7ml gives a little pip
2) if you are having problems with subq injections, try pharma grade; i had noticeable pip with UGL testcyp but no issues with RX test e

I have brewed my own testcyp, amongst other aas, with only pharma grade ingredients (of course, except for the raws) and being very anal about keeping everything sterile and clean, for every step of the brewing. and it was just as good as RX test e in terms of pip, welts, lumps etc...

When you brew your own, you can experiment with different oils (mct, gso, eo, mig840, guac etc...) and different percentages of BA/BB to see what is the best solution...

I havnt tried for a long time TBH
Last time I tried was with .3ml of Test E in GSO
But then again, I get bad PIP from TestE AND GSO doesnt sit well with me.

I might give it a shot of Cyp in MCT that I have lying around just for fun
Where do you usually pin?

I tried stomach, fucking welt for 3 weeks lol... even at .3ml

Might do 20 on a slin pin and see what happens.

 

[ManK]

Good to know, there's also Jatenzo to consider:

Oral Testosterone Treatment | JATENZO® (testosterone undecanoate) CIII

is the old stupid andriol

 

[Cryptotroll]

I havnt tried for a long time TBH
Last time I tried was with .3ml of Test E in GSO
But then again, I get bad PIP from TestE AND GSO doesnt sit well with me.

I might give it a shot of Cyp in MCT that I have lying around just for fun
Where do you usually pin?

I tried stomach, fucking welt for 3 weeks lol... even at .3ml

Might do 20 on a slin pin and see what happens.

Was your welt all red and swollen and warm as well ? I just tried it and I won’t do it again