You gotta be kidding!!

[moralanimal]

I have a buddy who does these 2 weekers all year round. Personally I think it is stupid but he competes at the national level and is a pretty big dude. It just always seems to me that it would really confuse your body.

 

[VDC]

Testosterone Mag used to talk about 2 week cycles about 4-5 years ago,,,They might still have the articles in the archives yet,,,I think Montana wrote them,,,Short lived esters and no sides plus the HPTA not shutting down were the main ideas involved,,,VDC

 

[ratmonkey]

l.rea does have some interesting ideas on many things. but he must've been hitting the crack pipe pretty hard when he started writing out his cycle suggestions.

 

[Blitz]

For all of you who are saying you lose all or most of your gains after short cycles, my question to you is are you taking anything during the off cycle to hold on to the gains like nolva or proviron or clomid? Also did you change your training in any way? Rea and Realgains both talk about these things.

 

[BoogerSnax]

L. Rea talks about blitz cycles but doesn't specify any real time frame for them. on one of the other forums a guy named RealGains talks about 2 weekers but was not really specific enough. From what I have read, on a decent 2 weeker with good gear you can gain 5-10# each cycle but you don't have to worry about any sides. I'm just trying to find someone with some experiance.
My cycle will basically look like this:
-50mg/day Dbol
-50-75mg/day Anavar
--for two weeks (on-cycle)
-50mg/day Clomid
--for 2 weeks of 4 week off cycle

what do you think??

You're looking in BUILDING THE PERFECT BEAST aren't you? He has another two weeker that uses high dose anadrol and something else. I just don't have my book at work.

But, yeah, I've read about them.

PEACE

 

[MANWHORE]

The problem i have with short cycles,is that people may not be giving enough time for natural test to return to normal after previous cycle before starting another cycle. Bill Roberts wrote about this and said if your going to stay on for more than 2 weeks you mind as well stay on the full 8 or more. You can search and find out why he says this,because i forgot. I don't believe 2 weeks will give much besides water and if your going to go for 3-4 weeks and take 3-4 weeks off in between,i don't think this is enough time for natural test to recover fully. I'd rather go for 8-12 weeks and take a few months off for natural test recovery

 

[dirtybird]

Blitz,

After years of so-called "traditional" cycles, I too have recently been looking further into short (or as you call them 'blitz') cycles.

Did you read the article by Bill Roberts posted on this site? If not, you should check it out. It's a case study in the 'Articles' section titled "2 on, 4 off cycles." Pretty good read.

DirtyBird

 

[Musclez]

Im all about the long-ass cycles. It's actually getting difficlut to call them cycles...

 

[KOMT]

Listen, I'm not being juvenile! I'm just saying, this is a steroid forum and anything besides discussion of AAS is a waste of my time no matter what similarities my questions may have to anything else. Besides, the effects of ANY VPX product/cycling suggestions will never have any suitable comparison with AAS.

You go do your 2 week cycle there stick boy and tell us how it works out for you. The rest of us will stick to tried and true methods that are backed by solid science and bros who've been "in the trenches" for years (many of whom are calling out your bullshit).

 

[KOMT]

Oh and one more thing- these "writers" that you are referencing make their living on "discovering" these so-called ground breaking new theories.

Have you ever asked yourself if some writer would ever intentionally make up some bullshit so an 18 year old retard would buy his book?

I looked at nelson montanas bodybuilding book- He had some "groundbreaking calve routine" listed in his advertisement for said book. Here was his magic secret: Use super light weight, for high reps and it only takes 4 minutes to do your calves! LOL!!!!

Anyone who has ever trained seriously knows damn well that calves require heavy, hard training to really grow.

Stop doing gay boy steroid routines and start eating like a monster and injecting yourself with wonderful goodies for 10 weeks and tell me i'm wrong.

*sets down tren, grabs chicken breasts*

 

[Blitz]

You go do your 2 week cycle there stick boy and tell us how it works out for you. The rest of us will stick to tried and true methods that are backed by solid science and bros who've been "in the trenches" for years (many of whom are calling out your bullshit).

Listen KOMT, if you want to get into a pissing/name calling match go back to elementary school! For your info, this "STICK BOY" is 5'9" @ 255, so save it!!
As far as your tried and true methods, I'm not disputing the fact that the longer cycles are superior for gains and retention. I was only trying to get some REAL feedback from people who have done these short cycles. I'm not trying to be another Ronnie Coleman "FREAK SHOW", and the short cycles were recommended for decent gains year 'round with little or no sides.
Also in reference to your next post, if you think L.Rea is just some clown trying to sell a book or two, get informed!!! L. Rea is one of the foremost authorities on AAS usage and is a living testimony to their results!!

 

[Blitz]

The problem i have with short cycles,is that people may not be giving enough time for natural test to return to normal after previous cycle before starting another cycle. Bill Roberts wrote about this and said if your going to stay on for more than 2 weeks you mind as well stay on the full 8 or more. You can search and find out why he says this,because i forgot. I don't believe 2 weeks will give much besides water and if your going to go for 3-4 weeks and take 3-4 weeks off in between,i don't think this is enough time for natural test to recover fully. I'd rather go for 8-12 weeks and take a few months off for natural test recovery

Manwhore, thanks for your response. I won't be going more than 2 weeks if I decide to try the 2 week on/ 4 weeks off blitz cycles. I will be doing higher dosages of D-bol/anavar or D-bol/tren or test prop. From what I read the shorter cycles like these don't mess with natural test levels too much thus recovery is very quick. I'll check out the artical by Roberts, thanks!

 

[Blitz]

Blitz,

After years of so-called "traditional" cycles, I too have recently been looking further into short (or as you call them 'blitz') cycles.

Did you read the article by Bill Roberts posted on this site? If not, you should check it out. It's a case study in the 'Articles' section titled "2 on, 4 off cycles." Pretty good read.

DirtyBird

DirtyBird, if you do try this type of cycle, post your results, good or bad. I'd like to see more hands on experience posting on this forum. We all know the longer cycles are tried and true but can also take a toll on the body. Seems like some people have never heard of the term "Buck the System". I have read of many people gaining tremendous success by doing just that, rocking the boat, going against the flow, etc., etc. If guys like Rea, Roberts, & Montana advocate these types of cycles for fair gains with healthier results I'm all for giving it a try!
Thanks!!

 

[dirtybird]

Blitz,

I have been resesearching short cycles for quite some time now and there is a fair amount of information out there. The problem is that most of the information is theoretical. After talking with many friends as well as some members of this and other boards, I was surprised to find that relatively few people actually have experience with these types of cycles (at least for any extended period of time). Bottom line is that some people swear by them, while others avoid them like the plague. The good thing is that the vast majority of people I have contacted that like them have all had some experience with them. Most of the people I spoke with that said they were garbage have never done short cycles.

As with almost everything surrounding AAS use, each person will react differently to different methods of administration. Despite any negative comments, I plan to try the 2 on, 4 off program come October. I have seen too many people get great results after "acting like idiots" and straying from the norm by implementing unconventional programs (be it training, supplementation, diet, AAS, etc.) that supposedly "would never work."

I will certainly let you know how things progress, but as I said before, I will not be starting until Oct. If you come across any worthwile information (either theoretical or significant individual experiences), please keep me posted.

Thanks,
DB