Back Routine!

get some wrist straps, so you take your arm muscles out of your back training. best thing for traps are Deadlifts or Dorian Deadlifts. I've never not seen a person that did Deads not have huge traps and neck.
 
Great responses everyone. Thank you. I trained back and biceps on Saturday. For back I hit chest supported row machine 5x15 (plus warmup), hammer machine pulldowns 5x15, hammer machine low row 5x15, one arm dumbell rows 5x15, and then seated cable row 5x15. Had a great pump in the back and was beat. When I went to hit biceps I didn't have much left but banged out barbell curls 3x12, machine curls 3x15, incline db curls 3x15, then cable curls 5x15. Feel it was my first good back workout in a while. Kept it high intensity and concentrated on pulling and contracting the back muscles with every rep. Back was sore the next day and it has not been in a while. I will be using pieces of your info and building the ultimate routine.

What days do you include your traps and rear delt work? Shoulders or back?
 
Back is truly a beautiful piece! All I can tell you is two things... First try to build a body to mind connection for back. Otherwise you will easily be doing arms before back. And two, do not neglect traps. Alot of people thin they are simply muscles in your neck when in reality they make the overall back appearance.

Goodluck OS
Dper you train traps on shoulders or Back day?
 
Great responses everyone. Thank you. I trained back and biceps on Saturday. For back I hit chest supported row machine 5x15 (plus warmup), hammer machine pulldowns 5x15, hammer machine low row 5x15, one arm dumbell rows 5x15, and then seated cable row 5x15. Had a great pump in the back and was beat. When I went to hit biceps I didn't have much left but banged out barbell curls 3x12, machine curls 3x15, incline db curls 3x15, then cable curls 5x15. Feel it was my first good back workout in a while. Kept it high intensity and concentrated on pulling and contracting the back muscles with every rep. Back was sore the next day and it has not been in a while. I will be using pieces of your info and building the ultimate routine.

What days do you include your traps and rear delt work? Shoulders or back?

I do rear delts on back day but I don't have a day dedicated for shoulders so its hard to say whats better...

Even if you have a day just for shoulders I still think doing rear delts on back day is a good idea. Your rear delts get hit REALLY well if you do a lot of horizontal rows, especially if you focus on squeezing your shoulder blades together during the movement.

You could build some really impressive rear delts just by doing rows if you really wanted to so I think it makes sense to do them on back day.
 
I agree. Both rear delts and traps I do on back day. It can get hard side I become winded after doing lie 14 sets of straight back excersises. So if that happens I'll do like 10 sets then throw in 6 trap sets...it is back day lots of good info on this thread
 
One of you guys should give this a try sometime: Inverted Row

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Its a horizontal row that is a closed chain exercise, so its probably one of the absolute best things you can do for middle back development (like a pullup/chinup for your middle back / rhomboids).

I would personally do these as my main lift for middle back but the only issue is they aren't really viable long term since you cant really progressive overload (balancing a plate on your stomach at an angle is difficult and most guys don't have access to vests or chains).
 
I have shoulders today, it's my least favorite workout. I find it difficult to really get my delts pumped how I would like. I do presses, lateral raises and upright rows but i just can't make my delts sore the next day. Any suggestions?
 
I have shoulders today, it's my least favorite workout. I find it difficult to really get my delts pumped how I would like. I do presses, lateral raises and upright rows but i just can't make my delts sore the next day. Any suggestions?


Try Focusing mostly on doing lateral raises / side delt work. I'm sure your front delts get hit plenty when you do chest so it wouldn't hurt to switch it up this way, and I find it way more effective than anything else for side delt growth.

I do:

Dumbbell Lateral Raises (10 Rep Max - I use a really heavy weight here with slightly reduced range of motion)
Dumbbell Lateral Raises (Reduced Weight 20-30 Reps per set)
Seated Dumbbell Lateral Raises (15-20 Reps per set)
Seated Machine Lateral Raise (1 Arm at a time going back and forth) (10-20 rep max is good for this one)

I do 50-100 total reps for each of these lifts using a combination of strict rest pause and short rest periods.

Plenty of volume and almost all of the work is directed at your side delts, which will give you some nice growth and glycogen super-compensation.

Do something like this after you do your heavy pressing compounds. I personally do this routine on my Push day after I do dips/incline and it has worked amazingly. I haven't done any kind of military/shoulder press and side delts are one of my strongest muscle groups.

If you do a narrow grip for upright rows, try doing a wider grip like this:

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A lot of guys have over developed front delts and would actually benefit from focusing more of their shoulder work on side delt.
 
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