Kratom- Who Uses It For Pre-workout Or Just In General?

stop labeling this plant in the same category as oxys and shit.. first off all its a natural plant and not chemically made.. kratom is used as a tool

everything your saying about kratom is incorrect.. and you buying at head shops just tells me you did not do enough research on the plant.. kratom is supposed to be bought online by certified sellers.. head shops mix kratom with alot of bullshit and thats what has dea eye balling this lovely plant that has saved thousands of addicts lives..
Your right i didnt do alot of research on it abd was an addict needing a fix for a that could clear test. Now im recovered i dont drink drug or even smoke. And i think kratom is just a bandaid for much bigger lower lying issue that steps need to fix. Not some drug
 
Your right i didnt do alot of research on it abd was an addict needing a fix for a that could clear test. Now im recovered i dont drink drug or even smoke. And i think kratom is just a bandaid for much bigger lower lying issue that steps need to fix. Not some drug
I dont think people use kratom to clear or elude a drug test. People use it cause it helps them. It has nothing to do with legal issues. You cant blame the plant for having its value and being legal at the same time. Its people with no knowledge of the plant and jumping on the bandwagon of oh its binds to the opiate receptor so it must be like dope. Giving it a bad rep and Thats why its being scrutinized the way it is from the fda and dea. But i believe once they do an intensive research, it would be proven otherwise and kratom its not just a one trick pony for opiate related use.
 
I see people are saying " i bet it has euphoric substances" , when obviously they havent use it and just bad mouthing it basing on bad publicity or naysayers....
The only reason kratom is so heavily looked at cause the government knows they will no longer make billions of dollar selling us theyre choice of drugs such as oxy, subs and so forth when theyre is a much less addicting, natural and cheaper alternative such as kratom. Its threatning the government money making machine, so they need to make it illegal. Dont believe the hype.
 
kratom sucks ass, ill take some real opiates anyday over it. the only "legal" buzz thats actually any decent is phenibut.
 
stop labeling this plant in the same category as oxys and shit.. first off all its a natural plant and not chemically made.. kratom is used as a tool

everything your saying about kratom is incorrect.. and you buying at head shops just tells me you did not do enough research on the plant.. kratom is supposed to be bought online by certified sellers.. head shops mix kratom with alot of bullshit and thats what has dea eye balling this lovely plant that has saved thousands of addicts lives..


"not chemically made" i hate when people say this shit... nothing is cheemically made pal..

opiates are from the popppy pods, aspirin is like willow bark if i remember correctly, cocaine is from the coca leaf, even meth is "natural" after you break down its parts.
 
"not chemically made" i hate when people say this shit... nothing is cheemically made pal..

opiates are from the popppy pods, aspirin is like willow bark if i remember correctly, cocaine is from the coca leaf, even meth is "natural" after you break down its parts.
Yeah i agree, but i believe most of those u mentioned is cut or adulterated in one way or the other. I think thats what he mean anyway.
 
If you believe you can get even 80% coke or dope you will be dead in heaven. Most are severely cut.
 
Yeah if my name was Noriega. Lol. But point is most people can't and don't have that kind of resource. You're lucky if u can get 80-85% coke or dope and I beg to differ. The only thing that comes to pure with opiate is roxy compare to h, it's much more cleaner.
 
Yeah if my name was Noriega. Lol. But point is most people can't and don't have that kind of resource. You're lucky if u can get 80-85% coke or dope and I beg to differ. The only thing that comes to pure with opiate is roxy compare to h, it's much more cleaner.
Yeah if my name was Noriega. Lol. But point is most people can't and don't have that kind of resource. You're lucky if u can get 80-85% coke or dope and I beg to differ. The only thing that comes to pure with opiate is roxy compare to h, it's much more cleaner.


ur conclusions are based on looking in the wrong places and asking the wrong questions
 
I've only been addicted to one chemical in my life alcohol. Took me years to quit. Will never want to take anything that will make me Dependant on it. Just my 2¢
 
Also I hope everyone don't really believe what agora has to offer and its purity claim..I'll take it with a grain of salt
 
Also I hope everyone don't really believe what agora has to offer and its purity claim..I'll take it with a grain of salt

cold water extractions through extensive distillation methods, accelerated evaporation, rinse and repeat rinse and repeat.
 
DHEA is a 2 step conversion from pure test. don't let your perceptions of what is and is not possible become you're own
prison.
 

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