Gearline where is your pics ? If you feel so confidant it won't reveal your personal info , I want to see the big men with big guns I mean big thumbs let's go
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BigDave
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SUST IS BUNK!!! - Labmax
I feel really bad posting this. Not because it seems unlikely I will get replacements or because I am out the money, but rather because I am sure others looked at my Labmax tests without carefully reading all 77 pages and decided to place an order with @Gearline.
I tried to make it clear in my posts that I had no idea if this source should be trusted. I was honest about receiving expired product and reminded people that just because the product passed a labmax, it didn't necessarily mean it was Human Grade. I thought that being a guinea pig had some value to Meso, and figured posting some unbiased results/reviews for others to make a decision was a contribution. I appreciate @brutus79, @CensoredBoardsSuck, @weighted chinup, & @johnnyBALLZ respectfully explaining why this is not the case.
As a newer member their posts often seemed like unjustified and indiscriminate attacks on every source. After they took the time to explain the back story and their justification (which a newer member might not be aware of), I have a much better understanding of why they took this approach. In hindsight while all of my experiences were represented honestly, posting tests of the gear before the source was fully vetted was probably a disservice to the community as a whole and I do apologize.
Labmax of Karachi Sust
I did a test on @Gearline Nile Sust back on page 37. He sent a small number as part of the resolution for some expired Deca. This Sust tested perfectly. I decided to order some more and was assured I would be receiving the same batch. Instead a new batch of Karachi Sust arrived. Last night I emailed him and asked why he had not sent the Nile as he promised in previous emails. He apologized, and I asked him if he was 100% sure it was going to test good, because if it was a new batch or a new distributor he might want to send me what we agreed upon before I perform the test. I was very clear that once I did the test the results were getting posted either way. He said he was absolutely 100% sure and it was the same batch he sent OGH (which I do not believe).
I do my Labmax testing in a slightly different way than most. Instead of trying to match the color to the website, I use a "control" and make sure the samples match each other perfectly. In this case I had some Mexican Organon Sust that was from a rediject sealed in the package, and has been confirmed by bloods. I actually run 2 tests side by side. It uses more tests, but I feel like it is more accurate. I also ran an additional B Vile test on the GL Karachi just to confirm the results. So we have one legit Organon Sust (you can tell.. glowing yellow), and two b vials containing bunk Karachi Sust (Just a little blue from UV). I have additional video if anyone wants to see. The A and B vials under natural light also do not match.
This is very disappointing @Gearline, and I am sure you are going to ask why I didn't bring it to you privately. The answer is I did bring it to you privately last night when I gave you a chance to resolve what I suspected was a bait and switch before I ran the test. If you want to resolve the situation now and send me the batch I ordered + compensation for 5 labmax vials ($45), I would be happy to post when I receive them and do another test.
I feel really bad posting this. Not because it seems unlikely I will get replacements or because I am out the money, but rather because I am sure others looked at my Labmax tests without carefully reading all 77 pages and decided to place an order with @Gearline.
I tried to make it clear in my posts that I had no idea if this source should be trusted. I was honest about receiving expired product and reminded people that just because the product passed a labmax, it didn't necessarily mean it was Human Grade. I thought that being a guinea pig had some value to Meso, and figured posting some unbiased results/reviews for others to make a decision was a contribution. I appreciate @brutus79, @CensoredBoardsSuck, @weighted chinup, & @johnnyBALLZ respectfully explaining why this is not the case.
As a newer member their posts often seemed like unjustified and indiscriminate attacks on every source. After they took the time to explain the back story and their justification (which a newer member might not be aware of), I have a much better understanding of why they took this approach. In hindsight while all of my experiences were represented honestly, posting tests of the gear before the source was fully vetted was probably a disservice to the community as a whole and I do apologize.
Labmax of Karachi Sust
I did a test on @Gearline Nile Sust back on page 37. He sent a small number as part of the resolution for some expired Deca. This Sust tested perfectly. I decided to order some more and was assured I would be receiving the same batch. Instead a new batch of Karachi Sust arrived. Last night I emailed him and asked why he had not sent the Nile as he promised in previous emails. He apologized, and I asked him if he was 100% sure it was going to test good, because if it was a new batch or a new distributor he might want to send me what we agreed upon before I perform the test. I was very clear that once I did the test the results were getting posted either way. He said he was absolutely 100% sure and it was the same batch he sent OGH (which I do not believe).
I do my Labmax testing in a slightly different way than most. Instead of trying to match the color to the website, I use a "control" and make sure the samples match each other perfectly. In this case I had some Mexican Organon Sust that was from a rediject sealed in the package, and has been confirmed by bloods. I actually run 2 tests side by side. It uses more tests, but I feel like it is more accurate. I also ran an additional B Vile test on the GL Karachi just to confirm the results. So we have one legit Organon Sust (you can tell.. glowing yellow), and two b vials containing bunk Karachi Sust (Just a little blue from UV). I have additional video if anyone wants to see. The A and B vials under natural light also do not match.
This is very disappointing @Gearline, and I am sure you are going to ask why I didn't bring it to you privately. The answer is I did bring it to you privately last night when I gave you a chance to resolve what I suspected was a bait and switch before I ran the test. If you want to resolve the situation now and send me the batch I ordered + compensation for 5 labmax vials ($45), I would be happy to post when I receive them and do another test.
Thank you for bringing this to the board. Classic selective scam
You CANNOT be made whole- think of all the people who didn't test or don't have the balls to go public. What about them @Gearline ?
Thanks again.
Dumbster diving asshole probably picked up the expired deca from a pharmacy trash can in Greece. He was too broke to walk in and buy it legally lol
BigDave
New Member
Good point! He knew I might test it and still sent me shit. Can't imagine what people that don't test get.
My guess...he thought if I did actually test it I would use results as leverage to get replacements. He didn't think I would really post. HA-HA ... He was wrong! Not going to let people get ripped off or get sick to save a few hundred bucks. That right there is the most insulting thing.
Rippedfreak
New Member
Well this train just derailed
Nice post BD. It will help others make a decision on this source.
Mr. Deltoid
New Member
Thanks for the tests Dave this is what's great about meso! shamrockbear I mean gearline is a fkn scammer! DO NOT BUT FROM THIS PIECE OF SHIT HE WILL RIP YOU OFF!
I think he is getting ripped of by his supply without knowing it. Euro gear can be as fucked up as Chinese raw.
Holds no water. We told him they were fucking fake.
BigDave
New Member
May be the case. They were pretty decent fakes. Silk screening felt right. Expiration date/batch #'s rubbed off with a bit of effort like they should. I am not a packaging expert, but comparing the boxes to the ones that came with Nile Sust that tested good, the printing/material all looks the same. Different size box, but same look and feel to material.
It gets confusing because the counterfeit looks better than legit gear many times.
BigDave
New Member
Box on left is Egyptian and tested good. Box on right was Karachi that failed. Thought pics might help someone else identify a problem.
Absolutely bs i think you need to redo that test why would I send bunk seriously that just nonsense.i will labmax them myself when kits come in... how can I find perfect fakes that match real amps ... nonsense I will post my results soon enough
I even included the boxes with the batch numbers send one to someone else to test Big Dave has been a decent customer but I think something not right with the testing I think.. i will retest myself and post not even because I need customers but to prove it was legit
I even included the boxes with the batch numbers send one to someone else to test Big Dave has been a decent customer but I think something not right with the testing I think.. i will retest myself and post not even because I need customers but to prove it was legit
I know we did. What I meant was that he was unaware at the time of purchase. He is holding the hot potato so to speak.
Euro gear can be a freaking nightmare trying to find legit steroids.
BigDave
New Member
@Gearline... I have been kinda rooting for you to make it here. What possible motivation could I have to post a BS test? I did one complete test of legit Organon Sust to compare it to. Same way I did the Nile Sust you were supposed to send that passed. I did another complete test of your Sust (A & B) vial, and then did a 3rd B Vial of your Sust to confirm. Colors were not correct for the A/B vials in natural light. B vial showed NO flouresence (presence of active compound), and I did an additional B vial that came out exactly the same (no active compound).
I am happy to send you the complete video that shows me oppening your amp, adding it to labmax vials, etc. It is just a really big file. I am even happy to do a third test on a different amp and video it for you (assuming you are willing to pay for it). At this point do you really want me to do that???
I would think at this point instead of telling one of your "happy customers" his testing is "bullshit" and acting like it is my fault you sent me bunk amps, maybe just admit that maybe you got fooled? Maybe your supplier got fooled. It is obvious to everyone they are no good, so it seems like some customer service might be a better choice at this point than getting pissed at me.
