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SUST IS BUNK!!! - Labmax
I feel really bad posting this. Not because it seems unlikely I will get replacements or because I am out the money, but rather because I am sure others looked at my Labmax tests without carefully reading all 77 pages and decided to place an order with @Gearline.
I tried to make it clear in my posts that I had no idea if this source should be trusted. I was honest about receiving expired product and reminded people that just because the product passed a labmax, it didn't necessarily mean it was Human Grade. I thought that being a guinea pig had some value to Meso, and figured posting some unbiased results/reviews for others to make a decision was a contribution. I appreciate @brutus79, @CensoredBoardsSuck, @weighted chinup, & @johnnyBALLZ respectfully explaining why this is not the case.
As a newer member their posts often seemed like unjustified and indiscriminate attacks on every source. After they took the time to explain the back story and their justification (which a newer member might not be aware of), I have a much better understanding of why they took this approach. In hindsight while all of my experiences were represented honestly, posting tests of the gear before the source was fully vetted was probably a disservice to the community as a whole and I do apologize.
Labmax of Karachi Sust
I did a test on @Gearline Nile Sust back on page 37. He sent a small number as part of the resolution for some expired Deca. This Sust tested perfectly. I decided to order some more and was assured I would be receiving the same batch. Instead a new batch of Karachi Sust arrived. Last night I emailed him and asked why he had not sent the Nile as he promised in previous emails. He apologized, and I asked him if he was 100% sure it was going to test good, because if it was a new batch or a new distributor he might want to send me what we agreed upon before I perform the test. I was very clear that once I did the test the results were getting posted either way. He said he was absolutely 100% sure and it was the same batch he sent OGH (which I do not believe).
I do my Labmax testing in a slightly different way than most. Instead of trying to match the color to the website, I use a "control" and make sure the samples match each other perfectly. In this case I had some Mexican Organon Sust that was from a rediject sealed in the package, and has been confirmed by bloods. I actually run 2 tests side by side. It uses more tests, but I feel like it is more accurate. I also ran an additional B Vile test on the GL Karachi just to confirm the results. So we have one legit Organon Sust (you can tell.. glowing yellow), and two b vials containing bunk Karachi Sust (Just a little blue from UV). I have additional video if anyone wants to see. The A and B vials under natural light also do not match.
This is very disappointing @Gearline, and I am sure you are going to ask why I didn't bring it to you privately. The answer is I did bring it to you privately last night when I gave you a chance to resolve what I suspected was a bait and switch before I ran the test. If you want to resolve the situation now and send me the batch I ordered + compensation for 5 labmax vials ($45), I would be happy to post when I receive them and do another test.
Good job BigDave.
As I said: