shady shady biz

[spj]

Ok in this day n age with the millions juicing I would think more of these ugl would be trying harder to be more reputable. If I cooked I wouldn't let ne thing less than perfect come out with my name stamped on it. I understand there's alot of bunk raws from China n what do u do... but if a bad batch comes out after testing throw it away. N all the resellers I'm sure ruin alot of good reputations as well. It's nothing for anybody with half a brain to print a pretty label n call it whatever or copy a real label. Idk. Just my 2 cents. Good luck to all

 

[Skull]

Yep I hear you. If I sold product I would want it to be perfect. Im naturally a perfectionist any ways lol. I wouldn't want my name being tarnishes. Don't they realize if they were to do it the right way in the first place they would profit from it 10fold within time compared to scamming for a quick buck!

 

[spj]

Underdosed shit is the stupidest thing I ever heard. I brings me back when I was a kid n ppl would cut their coke... yeah, u get over ONE time. Then that's it. No sales from then on. I'm sure there r legitimate reasons for inconsistencies but I truly believe if one lab came out above all, never a doubt there would be little to no compatition n everyone would be part of that company. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this.

 

[romaleos]

My theory is that most if not all UGL want to have the best products but they are at the mercy of their raw supplier.

My guess is that the few who get pure pharma grade raw are the long time private srcs who had connects pre-ORD. They don't need more clients because they have the best raw and clientele to match.

Everyone else is left to the mercy of the current china raw suppliers. Only way a post-ORD UGL could set themselves apart is by having the ability to purify the raws they have. And of course having a solid HPLC-MS connection that they can lean on for quality control.

Being the best as per MESO standards is easier said than done. But if done, they would be rich. And then ironically have to go private in order to manage the demand and remain out of the heat from LE.

Damn round and round in circles...

 

[Big Mike]

Unfortunately brother it all comes down to money. Running a medium to large scale operation with MS testing on raws, final product testing, labmax etc. requires big pockets or a lot of financing. These guys don't want that, they want the quick dollar instead.


Big Mike

 

[dredd09]

Not to mention raws can be purified by recrystallisation. Unless there totally fake, you can still salvage a bad bag. But if your a greedy lazy fuck..its more about luring people than insuring quality. Its like buying stems and seeds from some nickel sack dealer. He doesnt care as long as he can screw you next time too.

 

[romaleos]

Not to mention raws can be purified by recrystallisation. Unless there totally fake, you can still salvage a bad bag. But if your a greedy lazy fuck..its more about luring people than insuring quality. Its like buying stems and seeds from some nickel sack dealer. He doesnt care as long as he can screw you next time too.

Is this a simple process that can be accomplished in a home kitchen lab?

 

[BIGMESC]

Is this a simple process that can be accomplished in a home kitchen lab?

Yes and no, will send you a PM

 

[dredd09]

In a word, yes.

 

[dredd09]

I think the knowledge should be out there, but wondering why this is addressed through pm . Unless legality is the concern. In which case i was talking about something completely unrelated and legal.

 

[Ripp]

Yes, I agree share the knowledge bro. Unless it compromises safety or security.

 

[Bradly]

yeah @BIGMESC , why not put it out there. I know alot of people are working on this

 

[BIGMESC]

Lol. Disclaimer I am not a chemist by trade.
I hesitate to put it out there for safety reasons.
It is one thing for me to experiment on myself another to put potentially dangerous info out there that some kid could fuck himself up with.

I will address it more when I am off work tonight.

 

[BIGMESC]

info is out there and if you have washed dope in the past it is not much different.

 

[dredd09]

It should be done the same way as anything, with a polar solvent to form saturated solution. And then precipated out and dried. Other ways include simple base extraction using meoh in solution and basified water ...if people are interested, the same protocols are specific in nature on any chem forum. Search acid-base extractions, solvent extractions...super saturated solution recrystallization..if sources are gonna mess with crystals, they fuckin A oughtta know how to purify. Dont play a man's game with a childs knowledge.

 

[romaleos]

Ah shit, it's getting Heisenburg up in here! YEAH BITCH, SCIENCE!!!

 

[dredd09]

Another way is to find out what your experimenting on is soluble or insoluble in different things. Find one that dissolves everything but what you want left behind , and there might be a gem or two staring you in the eyes. Twinkling.

 

[dredd09]

It all started with the man. Mr. Wizard. Now THAT guy was ...trippppy.

 

[romaleos]

Mr. Wizard is THE OG. He had the puro from way way back.

 

[dredd09]

Or one could invest in the adrenals and other glandular pretties of bovine flavor... Cows will never bunk you on there test suspension.