3rd consecutive two weeker

[roastdawg]

Starting my third 2 on/4 off cycle on Friday. Ran prop/dbol round one, tren/dbol/var round two. Gonna combine em this time and run 75mg tren with 25mg prop ed along with 40mg dbol split into a morning and evening dose. Will also take aromasin... 25mg eod.

Tren by itself was fine, gained 7lbs, kept 6 with no real sides. I'll see how it does with a lil prop. It's a new batch of tren from a different ug so I'm a little nervous it might kick harder than my last batch. If so I'll back off to 50mg ed.

 

[hotdog23]

Looks good bud, what's your net muscle gain fat loss looking like right now?

Edit: keep tren at 75 ED, you don't have time to waste. Very short active life too... What if it's worse than your first tren?

 

[roastdawg]

Looks good bud, what's your net muscle gain fat loss looking like right now?

Edit: keep tren at 75 ED, you don't have time to waste. Very short active life too... What if it's worse than your first tren?

Up 9lbs and .5 bf after two runs. Good call on the tren, still a little nervous of losing my temper on it is all really.

 

[hotdog23]

Up 9lbs and .5 bf after two runs. Good call on the tren, still a little nervous of losing my temper on it is all really.

Good progress! If you did alright the first time you will prob be alright. Just avoid situations you know will upset you

 

[roastdawg]

Good progress! If you did alright the first time you will prob be alright. Just avoid situations you know will upset you

With a wife and a kid you can't always avoid those situations, hence the anxiety! I was actually more chill when I ran the tren though.... Maybe cause I was on high alert for any temper flare ups.

 

[stang4u2nv]

It must be tough running short amounts of tren due to your body not being able to adjust. By the time it start to aclimate you stop it and the. Repeat

 

[roastdawg]

It must be tough running short amounts of tren due to your body not being able to adjust. By the time it start to aclimate you stop it and the. Repeat

First time was actually easy... never had any sides, gained 7lbs and kept 6 of em. Hoping everytime will be that easy but still too early to tell.

 

[Mr.B66]

Do you have to run a pct on these two week cycles? Also after a month have you done labs to see if your back to normal, test-fsh-lh. And E2? Just curious!!!!

 

[roastdawg]

Did labs at the end of my second week off... Total t was at 600 which unfortunately is as high as I go. And yes, pct with clomid. I do anywhere from 7 to 14 days.

 

[hotdog23]

Did labs at the end of my second week off... Total t was at 600 which unfortunately is as high as I go. And yes, pct with clomid. I do anywhere from 7 to 14 days.

Dam... Thought it would be a lot higher with the SERM effect... Your actual level is prob pretty low then. What's your age?

 

[roastdawg]

Dam... Thought it would be a lot higher with the SERM effect... Your actual level is prob pretty low then. What's your age?

38. My level without serms was 35 ug/mg before cycle which is pretty low.

 

[hotdog23]

I don't know your exact reasons - and your logging your progress on this protocol is great - but I would blast cruise 100%.. As long as I don't get horribly disfigured before I finish having kids I will BC after

 

[roastdawg]

I don't know your exact reasons - and your logging your progress on this protocol is great - but I would blast cruise 100%.. As long as I don't get horribly disfigured before I finish having kids I will BC after

Scared of being on for life. I look pretty good even with the low t... Just lack in the energy department. I'm gonna run clomid for the entire four weeks off next time and see how that does.

 

[hotdog23]

Scared of being on for life. I look pretty good even with the low t... Just lack in the energy department. I'm gonna run clomid for the entire four weeks off next time and see how that does.

Understandable. FYI all SERMs lower IGF levels semi-dramatically. Yes they are neccesary but I try to avoid excessive use. Maybe it's irrational idk. It will boost your test though

 

[roastdawg]

Fucking flu symptoms from prop again! Low grade fever of 99.6 and feel like shiz. Only two pins in and and only running the prop at 25mg ed (frontloaded at 50mg on day one along with 150mg tren ace). When I used prop previously I had the flu symptoms throughout the entire two weeks, worse at night. Thought I could get away with the prop at such a low dosage... maybe it'll get better but not sure I want to keep going with the prop at this point. What are my options? Obviously I can drop the prop and stick with the tren and dbol only (same as I ran for my last two weeker with good results). I have some test phenylprop on hand but I am under the impression that the half life might be a little too long on that one for a two weeker.

Opinions on what I should do? Drop the test altogether, give it a few more days with the prop and see if symptoms improve, or is the phenylprop an option?

 

[hotdog23]

Drop the test. It's anabolic input is next to nil at that dose

 

[roastdawg]

Drop the test. It's anabolic input is next to nil at that dose

Cool, that's the route I was leaning towards. Thanks bro!

 

[roastdawg]

So to update this I cut out the prop, was fine for a day, then fever and aches again the next day. I realized it got worse at night after I took my second dose of dbol. So cut the dbol down to 10mg from 50mg and added low dose prop back in and I've been great. Have to find a different oral than dbol going forward... Or just stick to tren and prop.

Anyways, up three lbs 8 days in. Got two pins left then I'll try some low dose dbol for the last few days. Strength gains have been coming on pretty nice, I feel like this batch of tren is better than the last stuff I ran. Next week will tell a lot.

 

[Genghis K.]

roasthawg, I am enjoying the thread. I have one question, you are using Clomid over other choices for PCT. What is your reasoning behind this? Thank you and I look forward to reading more of your post.

 

[roastdawg]

roasthawg, I am enjoying the thread. I have one question, you are using Clomid over other choices for PCT. What is your reasoning behind this? Thank you and I look forward to reading more of your post.

Currently have a clomid script from my hrt doc to treat low t so it makes it an easy choice!