Opinion about cycle

[Amino]

I'm 21 years old weight:70kg height:1.81m.I decided to take a steroid cycle because i as a student i don't have enough money to train clean:as proteins and other supllements cost fortunes,and the gain with my metabolism is pretty slow.So i have taken dianabol and deca for 5 weeks few years ago,gained 8kg from what 5kg has left as solid mass after all the water flushed out.But that was just a stupid experiment and didn't even take any pct after that..So i decided i want to put some weight again and i decided to take boldenone undecyloate for 5 weeks 400mg/week,dbol 20-30mg/day for 5 weeks until i get my boldenon working in full force,sustanon 300/week for first 6 weeks and when boldenon kicks in i up my sustanon to 600/week,till week 8,then after two weeks,when conc of compounds drops in blood,start pct 20mg nolva/day,500ui hcg/day,25mg aromasin day.so i want to know your opinions and maybe someone has taken similar cycles,i want to now your gains then Im first week now in cycle,got sus flu felt like shit,but i read in some forums that its just for first few injections.

 

[yamahar6]

You are way off. Please, before you fuck yourself up, READ and READ some more

 

[tubesox]

 

[ironwill1951]

that is a very bad idea , you need to do alot more research i am not even going to try to explain why it is bad read read read ...

 

[Ozzy619]

I'm 21 years old weight:70kg height:1.81m.I decided to take a steroid cycle because i as a student i don't have enough money to train clean:as proteins and other supllements cost fortunes,and the gain with my metabolism is pretty slow.So i have taken dianabol and deca for 5 weeks few years ago,gained 8kg from what 5kg has left as solid mass after all the water flushed out.But that was just a stupid experiment and didn't even take any pct after that..So i decided i want to put some weight again and i decided to take boldenone undecyloate for 5 weeks 400mg/week,dbol 20-30mg/day for 5 weeks until i get my boldenon working in full force,sustanon 300/week for first 6 weeks and when boldenon kicks in i up my sustanon to 600/week,till week 8,then after two weeks,when conc of compounds drops in blood,start pct 20mg nolva/day,500ui hcg/day,25mg aromasin day.so i want to know your opinions and maybe someone has taken similar cycles,i want to now your gains then Im first week now in cycle,got sus flu felt like shit,but i read in some forums that its just for first few injections.

I read the first three sentences before I gave up. Steroids wont get you bigger or in better shape, your diet will. If you csnt afford a proper diet you shouldnt mess with steroids. And 5 weeks of deca did nothing for you.

 

[Dr JIM]

You are TWENTY ONE and you are far TO YOUNG to be using AAS. Wake up fella bc your being absolutely foolish and your FIRST POST makes that obvious!

Hey dude here's one example, did you obtain ANY precycle bloods, ah duh whas tht Jim?

 

[Walker]

This post smells of stupid. You can afford steroids but cant afford to eat clean?...are you fucking retarted?

 

[Dr JIM]

This post smells of stupid. You can afford steroids but cant afford to eat clean?...are you fucking retarted?

LMAO! Res Ipsa Loquitor

 

[Volley_Fire]

Man, I hope you are not serious.

As the doc stated, you are too young for AAS. And as he also asked, did you get pre-cycle bloodwork to establish a baseline? You are playing in dangerous territory and may suffer permanent consequences.

I will try and be nice and elaborate on what's already been stated.

1. You are too young. This is not somebody's subjective assessment of your emotional or psychological maturity. It is an objective fact of your physiologic maturity. You need to wait.

2. If you cannot afford to have everything else in check, including a regular and proper training regimen and a good diet to fully support gains, both in total caloric content and sufficient grams of protein each day, you will be flushing your money down the toilet and putting your health at risk for no reason.

3. Did you get pre-cycle bloodwork to establish your baseline? Or do you not care about recovering your original natural testosterone production?

4. Your PCT is all wrong. And after you run it, you'll know something went wrong, but you'll never know just how wrong it was or what corrective measures to take because you never did pre-cycle bloodwork.

5. If you decide to not be a complete bonehead, you'll stop your cycle immediately. You need to wait till you're older, and in the meantime do a lot of research on the points mentioned above.

 

[Amino]

Man, I hope you are not serious.

As the doc stated, you are too young for AAS. And as he also asked, did you get pre-cycle bloodwork to establish a baseline? You are playing in dangerous territory and may suffer permanent consequences.

I will try and be nice and elaborate on what's already been stated.

1. You are too young. This is not somebody's subjective assessment of your emotional or psychological maturity. It is an objective fact of your physiologic maturity. You need to wait.

2. If you cannot afford to have everything else in check, including a regular and proper training regimen and a good diet to fully support gains, both in total caloric content and sufficient grams of protein each day, you will be flushing your money down the toilet and putting your health at risk for no reason.

3. Did you get pre-cycle bloodwork to establish your baseline? Or do you not care about recovering your original natural testosterone production?

4. Your PCT is all wrong. And after you run it, you'll know something went wrong, but you'll never know just how wrong it was or what corrective measures to take because you never did pre-cycle bloodwork.

5. If you decide to not be a complete bonehead, you'll stop your cycle immediately. You need to wait till you're older, and in the meantime do a lot of research on the points mentioned above.

I think i am going to be a complete bonehead and and go on with the cycle,because i am already week 2 in the cycle and hpta is already supressed a little bit,and i spent all that money.So i wanna ask why you think my pct is all wrong because i found this article https://thinksteroids.com/articles/post-cycle-therapy-pct/ and it pretty much explains everything in a logical sense,so i decided to go on with this pct.My diet and training regimen is all right.I eat 2.5k calories every day,when my calorie needs is about 2k,and eat about 150g protein a day.So you better explain me why my cycle is wrong thanks

 

[Walker]

your calorie intake needs to be the size you want to be not the size you are...for example.. I aim for 5000+ calories and 250+ grams of proten a day...at 198lbs ...take all the steroids you want your not gonna grow eating like a woman...

 

[Walker]

and theres more that should be included for pct than nolva...clomid should be added and most people use much more than 20 mg ED...

you clearly have a extreme basic understanding of all this ...and will likely end up fucking your body...but hey...your a big boy ...

 

[Walker]

also take into consideration that UGL pct meds are likely underdosed....so the 20mgs you think your getting could be 10mg or even less....

but im sure you already knew all this..

 

[Amino]

also take into consideration that UGL pct meds are likely underdosed....so the 20mgs you think your getting could be 10mg or even less....

but im sure you already knew all this..

I have heard that it might be underdosed,but my nolva and hcg is pharma grade,only aromasin is UGL,but as it is irreversibly binding to aromatase receptors its quite potent even underdosed

 

[Walker]

well rather than read what you linked read what the guys around here are running for PCT...why no clomid?

this what most pct looks like

Clomid 75/50/50/50 Nolva 40/20/20/20

 

[Amino]

well rather than read what you linked read what the guys around here are running for PCT...why no clomid?

this what most pct looks like

Clomid 75/50/50/50 Nolva 40/20/20/20

im not cathegorical on this because as i see every thread in forum has different opinion,i believed that article because refferences are all scientific rather than something people heard from other people,and in that article its stated that clomid and nolva doesn't work in synergy,i can't agree and disagree with that because i only read one article il dig into that.and after nolva and clomid cycle like that,your bloodwork comes as before cycle?

 

[Walker]

im not the most knowledgeable, but this is a regiment that knowledgeable vets are running ...

im a firm believer to not change whats not broken.

my last pct with this regiment gave me no complications

 

[michaltyler]

I'm 21 years old weight:70kg height:1.81m.I decided to take a steroid cycle because i as a student i don't have enough money to train clean:as proteins and other supllements cost fortunes,and the gain with my metabolism is pretty slow.So i have taken dianabol and deca for 5 weeks few years ago,gained 8kg from what 5kg has left as solid mass after all the water flushed out.But that was just a stupid experiment and didn't even take any pct after that..So i decided i want to put some weight again and i decided to take boldenone undecyloate for 5 weeks 400mg/week,dbol 20-30mg/day for 5 weeks until i get my boldenon working in full force,sustanon 300/week for first 6 weeks and when boldenon kicks in i up my sustanon to 600/week,till week 8,then after two weeks,when conc of compounds drops in blood,start pct 20mg nolva/day,500ui hcg/day,25mg aromasin day.so i want to know your opinions and maybe someone has taken similar cycles,i want to now your gains then Im first week now in cycle,got sus flu felt like shit,but i read in some forums that its just for first few injections.

Dude, your fucked up PCT isn't even the worst part... You're only two weeks in, that's not too far gone to stop IMMEDIATELY and rethink your decision.

 

[Amino]

You better explain me whats wrong,because the words:'messed up' and 'wrong' doesn't explain me why it is that way?

 

[michaltyler]

For starters, you're 21. Secondly, it's obvious you haven't put in the time or effort to research proper AAS use, therefore you should take more time to read and study an appropriate cycle.
Not to mention you only weigh 70kg, which is less than my 14yo brother weighs... and he's a skinny cross country runner. This fact, along with your obvious ignorance, leads me to believe that you have a shitty work ethic in the gym and an even shittier diet. These things ALONE should be reason enough to stop!

Here's what I suggest:
1). STOP NOW.
2). Spend another several years researching and perfecting your diet and nutrition along with learning how your body responds to various workout programs.
3). After you have reached your natural peak (at your height, you'll easily weigh close 180-190), as well as an appropriate age (most would say 25 at minimum), and have perfected your diet and workout routine, THEN AND ONLY THEN should you start thinking about using AAS.

If you have the mental fortitude to eat clean and workout consistently for several years, then AAS might be worth your time/money some day. But if you're sacrificing nutrition to purchase AAS, that's ridiculous. Diet is more important than training!! C'mon bro, get your head outta your ass and smarten up!