Police State Thread

[BBC3]

No - def not saying it should be accepted...!

And who wakes up in the morning and rolls out of bed excited about another day of manhandling folks. I find the whole issue disturbing. Its difficult to process..

So since "Fukin cops are what the(y) are.." it is okay for them to use excessive force?

This is not only happening in Ferguson, Missouri to black folk, it's happening all over the country to every ethnicity. A majority have been homeless or mentally ill patients left to their own due to cuts in mental health care from every administration since Nixon. There is nothing funny about this. This is real and may happen to you or someone you know down the line (God, Buddha or whomever forebid).

Kelly Thomas (the first video I posted on this thread) was unarmed, mentally ill and was not resisting arrest. I guess "Fukin cops are what the(y) are.." and we should move on and watch the next Episode of Family Guy, laugh and eat our Papa John's Pizza while having a Coke and a smile.

 

[kawilt]

the trials of henry kissinger is a good book. I haven't seen the Documentary though. It is on Netflix.

Heady Muscle I must thank you for recommending the book " The trial of Henry Kissinger" I had never read it. How utterly depressing. I would advise CBS to read this book, It is not conspiracy theories. I bring this up for a reason. I was sitting at a bar in the departure lounge of the airport very late one night waiting for a red eye flight out of Panama city Panama to Los Angeles. Sitting beside me at this dark bar was a catholic priest, a Jesuit. We had both already had a few drinks. He was waiting for the same flight and we talked for a long time. He was being flown out of Santiago by the church for his safety. During our conversations he told me "they shot him" shot him in the head, murdered him.. And sometimes referred to "they " as us, I listened to his story but didn't pay a lot of attention. I didn't know who Salvador Allende was or anything else about Chile at that time. I had other interest in South America and politics was not one of them. I had been in and out of South and Central America many times but never had a reason to be in Chile. I've often thought of this meeting over the years, especially after the bombing assassination in Washington DC of Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier in 1976. I kind of put it out of my mind, for a lot of reasons, until last night when I read this book recommended by Heady Muscle...I know this all happened a long time ago, but how long did it take to get documents under the freedom of information act? at least some of them that were not destroyed. (remember the USS Liberty).... What else is out there that happened and is happening since then? And I think.. well now, where are we?....what's changed? What's different?

 

[heady muscle]

Heady Muscle I must thank you for recommending the book " The trial of Henry Kissinger" I had never read it. How utterly depressing. I would advise CBS to read this book, It is not conspiracy theories. I bring this up for a reason. I was sitting at a bar in the departure lounge of the airport very late one night waiting for a red eye flight out of Panama city Panama to Los Angeles. Sitting beside me at this dark bar was a catholic priest, a Jesuit. We had both already had a few drinks. He was waiting for the same flight and we talked for a long time. He was being flown out of Santiago by the church for his safety. During our conversations he told me "they shot him" shot him in the head, murdered him.. And sometimes referred to "they " as us, I listened to his story but didn't pay a lot of attention. I didn't know who Salvador Allende was or anything else about Chile at that time. I had other interest in South America and politics was not one of them. I had been in and out of South and Central America many times but never had a reason to be in Chile. I've often thought of this meeting over the years, especially after the bombing assassination in Washington DC of Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier in 1976. I kind of put it out of my mind, for a lot of reasons, until last night when I read this book recommended by Heady Muscle...I know this all happened a long time ago, but how long did it take to get documents under the freedom of information act? at least some of them that were not destroyed. (remember the USS Liberty).... What else is out there that happened and is happening since then? And I think.. well now, where are we?....what's changed? What's different?

Those were crazy times in SA. Now the same thing is happening in the middle east under the same guise. I thought you were going say you meet Allende. I have friends from El Salvador that witness and were part of the same happenings of the priest you spoke of.

The net of Freedom is a vicious one.

I am really glad you are enjoying the book. I think they all came too power prior to JFK being whacked, but soon after they took it too a much higher level. Now with the aid of technology, Kissinger and his allies are close to having net cast around the whole earth. Scary science fiction stuff, but our reality. Growing up reading Brave New World, 1984 and such, at times I didn't think those types of realities were possible. How naive.

Like I said before, I would love to hear your stories. I think you were what I wanted to be. Lol! This one life is a very interesting one if you open yourself up to it.

 

[kawilt]

Boxes my friend, Everybody has a little box tucked away to be opened and dealt with later...If at all.

 

[heady muscle]

Yes, this is truth.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The trial of Henry Kissinger" I had never read it. How utterly depressing. I would advise CBS to read this book, It is not conspiracy theories.

Hitchens is one of my favorite writers. He was a brilliant writer and polemicist.

 

[kawilt]

Well, since we were discussing "scientific studies" on the forced vaccine dispute, here's another "scientific study" I came across.
In the Washington Times no less.
I'm sure many of us here are in agreement;
I know, I know! old news.
The original article called it a "SCIENTIFIC STUDY"
HAPPY 13th all.....
And don't forget to use your "vote"....



America is an oligarchy, not a democracy or republic, university study finds


By Cheryl K. Chumley - The Washington Times - Monday, April 21, 2014
America is no longer a democracy — never mind the democratic republic envisioned by Founding Fathers.

Rather, it has taken a turn down elitist lane and become a country led by a small dominant class comprised of powerful members who exert total control over the general population — an oligarchy, said a new study jointly conducted by Princeton and Northwestern universities.

One finding in the study: The U.S. government now represents the rich and powerful, not the average citizen, United Press International reported.

In the study, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups and Average Citizens,” researchers compared 1,800 different U.S. policies that were put in place by politicians between 1981 and 2002 to the type of policies preferred by the average and wealthy American, or special interest groups.

Researchers then concluded that U.S. policies are formed more by special interest groups than by politicians properly representing the will of the general people, including the lower-income class.

“The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence,” the study found.

The study also found: “When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose.”



Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ot-democracy-or-republic-unive/#ixzz3RfH1iU2b
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[gator22]

Im stockin up on ammo and other things for when it hits the fan.. we need less govt and we definately need to get out of the un and the un out of America

 

[flenser]

New Jersey man faces up to ten years in prison for owning 300-year-old flintlock pistol

MILLVILLE, NJ — A retired schoolteacher is facing felony charges for owning an 18th century relic firearm in the state of New Jersey.

Gordan N. Van Gilder, 72, was pulled over by a Cumberland County Sheriff’s Deputy on November 20, 2014 for a minor traffic violation.


Gordon VanGilder’s 300 year old flintlock pistol. (Image: Ammoland)

“The deputy, Joshua Sheppard, started screaming at us,” Mr. Van Gilder recalled to NRA News. “He wanted to search the car.”

“You’re going to give us your consent, or do I have to get the dog?” Deputy Sheppard allegedly challenged.

“You don’t have to get any dogs. Help yourself,” Van Gilder recounted saying to the deputy.

When asked, Mr. Van Gilder told the deputy that he had an unloaded, antique pistol wrapped up in a cloth in his glove compartment. The collectible pistol was made in the mid-1700s and would require the manual loading of gunpowder and spherical projectiles in order to actually fire.

His cooperation with the police ended up being his undoing. The Sheriff’s Deputy nailed him with felony charges because of the antique.

Mr. Van Gilder elaborated on the situation in his interview with NRA News. “They were trying hard to nail me,” he said. “I don’t get it.”

http://www.policestateusa.com/2015/gordan-van-gilder-flintlock-pistol/

 

[kawilt]

Well.... That pretty much say's it all.

 

[MindlessWork]

New Jersey man faces up to ten years in prison for owning 300-year-old flintlock pistol

MILLVILLE, NJ — A retired schoolteacher is facing felony charges for owning an 18th century relic firearm in the state of New Jersey.

Gordan N. Van Gilder, 72, was pulled over by a Cumberland County Sheriff’s Deputy on November 20, 2014 for a minor traffic violation.


Gordon VanGilder’s 300 year old flintlock pistol. (Image: Ammoland)

“The deputy, Joshua Sheppard, started screaming at us,” Mr. Van Gilder recalled to NRA News. “He wanted to search the car.”

“You’re going to give us your consent, or do I have to get the dog?” Deputy Sheppard allegedly challenged.

“You don’t have to get any dogs. Help yourself,” Van Gilder recounted saying to the deputy.

When asked, Mr. Van Gilder told the deputy that he had an unloaded, antique pistol wrapped up in a cloth in his glove compartment. The collectible pistol was made in the mid-1700s and would require the manual loading of gunpowder and spherical projectiles in order to actually fire.

His cooperation with the police ended up being his undoing. The Sheriff’s Deputy nailed him with felony charges because of the antique.

Mr. Van Gilder elaborated on the situation in his interview with NRA News. “They were trying hard to nail me,” he said. “I don’t get it.”

http://www.policestateusa.com/2015/gordan-van-gilder-flintlock-pistol/

Wow a felony for possessing such an old weapon that's rather hard to fire? Hope a sane judge would laugh this out of court as this seems to be more of a witch hunt. Now is this a war against antique gun collectors???

 

[kawilt]

A quote from the sheriff "WITHOUT HAVING PROPER PAPER WORK ON HIS PERSON"

Yor dokuments pleez...mmmmm they dont zeem to be in order.
No, this isn't a war against antique gun collectors, it's a war against you! the people. As I mentioned before " get out there and vote" only you can make a difference.

 

[flenser]

Video Exonerates Man Set Up By Louisiana Cops And Prosecutors

If not for cell phone video, 47-year-old disabled veteran Douglas Dendinger could be going to prison — because of an apparent coordinated effort by Washington Parish, La. cops and prosecutors who falsely accused him of battery and witness intimidation.

As New Orleans’ WWL reports, Dendinger’s two-year nightmare began on Aug. 20, 2012, when he was paid $50 to serve a court summons on behalf of his nephew against Bogalusa police officer Chad Cassard in a police brutality lawsuit.

Dendinger handed Cassard a white envelope containing the documents and says he went on his way. But 20 minutes later, police showed up to Dendinger’s house and arrested him. He was put in jail on charges of simple battery, obstruction of justice and intimidating a witness.

Two of those charges are felonies, and a prior cocaine conviction on Dendinger’s record threatened to land him in jail for a long time as a repeat offender.

But Dendinger was confident that a mistake had been made and that he would be released without cause since two prosecutors and several police officers had seen him hand over the summons peacefully.

But that’s not what happened.

A year after the incident, then-District Attorney Walter Reed brought charges against Dendinger. His case was backed by two prosecutors who asserted that Dendinger had assaulted Cassard. Seven witness statements also supported the case.

Cassard made the same claim, writing in a voluntary statement that Dendinger “slapped him in the chest” when he served the summons.

Pamela Legendre, a staff attorney who witnessed the hand-off, said she thought Dendinger had punched Cassard.

Bogalusa police chief Joe Culpepper said that Dendinger had used “violence” and “force.”

And another witness said in a deposition that Dendinger used such force when he served the summons that Cassard flew back several feet.

“It wasn’t fun and games, they had a plan, the plan was really to go after him and put him away. That is scary,” Philip Kaplan, the attorney representing Dendinger in his civil rights case, told WWL.

“I realized even more at that moment these people are trying to hurt me,” Dendinger told the news station.

Luckily for Dendinger, his wife and nephew had filmed him that day in order to prove that the court papers had been served.

Grainy video of the exchange shows Dendinger handing Cassard the summons and the former police officer walking away in the opposite direction. Though the video aired by WWL does not show the entire encounter, what it does not show is Dendinger slapping anyone or acting aggressively during the crucial moment when he served the summons.

The video also shows that the witness who claimed that Denginger’s force pushed Cassard back several feet had his back turned as the scene unfolded.

After Reed was forced to recuse his office from the case, it was referred to the Louisiana attorney general who quickly dropped the charges against Dendinger.

Rafael Goyeneche, president of the New Orleans Metropolitan Crime Commission, told WWL that after viewing the video he did not see Dendinger commit battery on Cassard and that the officers and prosecutors involved could be looking at serious ethics charges.

“I didn’t see a battery, certainly a battery committed that would warrant criminal charges being preferred,” Goyeneche said.

“It’s a felony to falsify a police report,” Goyeneche continued. “So this is a police report, and this police report was the basis for charging this individual.”

Kaplan made the obvious point: ”If this was truly a battery on a police officer, with police officers all around him, why isn’t something happening right there?”

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[Wings_of_pain]

You guys hear about the dude in Florida that got shot in the face when swat raided his home for dealing insignificant amounts of weed?
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/officials-man-shot-face-while-deputies-attempt-ser/nkNWP/

 

[flenser]

Mental institutions, yet another convenient means to circumvent what few legal protections remain.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/woman-held-8-days-in-nyc-psych-ward-for-saying-obama-followed-her-on-twitter-even-though-he-does/

A Long Island woman was detained in a Harlem mental institution for eight days for claiming, among other things, that President Barack Obama followed her on Twitter — even though he does.

According to The Daily News‘ Stephen Rex Brown, last year Kam Brock attempted to retrieve a car that the New York Police Department had seized.

When she walked into the NYPD’s Public Service Area 6 stationhouse, she was, by her own admission, “emotional,” but insisted that she was by no means “emotionally disturbed.”

The NYPD disagreed — they handcuffed her and sent her to the hospital.

According to the lawsuit Brock is filing, the “next thing you know, the police held onto me, the doctor stuck me with a needle and I was knocked out. I woke up to them taking off my underwear and then went out again. I woke up the next day in a hospital robe.”

She said she was heavily sedated by hospital employees, and she told The Daily News that she only mentioned to doctors that the president follows her on Twitter to show them “the type of person I am. I’m a good person, a positive person. Obama follows positive people.”

Instead, the lawsuit alleges the doctor made her discharge contingent upon her denying that Obama follows her on the social media site. According to her “master treatment plan,” one of the objectives that would trigger her release was that she “state that Obama is not following her on Twitter.”

No one at the hospital, she said, checked her Twitter account for objective proof of the truth of her claim.

In her lawsuit, Brock is attempting to recoup the $13,637.10 bill she received for her involuntary incarceration, as well as an unspecified amount of additional damages.

 

[kawilt]

Mental institutions, yet another convenient means to circumvent what few legal protections remain.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/woman-held-8-days-in-nyc-psych-ward-for-saying-obama-followed-her-on-twitter-even-though-he-does/

A Long Island woman was detained in a Harlem mental institution for eight days for claiming, among other things, that President Barack Obama followed her on Twitter — even though he does.

According to The Daily News‘ Stephen Rex Brown, last year Kam Brock attempted to retrieve a car that the New York Police Department had seized.

When she walked into the NYPD’s Public Service Area 6 stationhouse, she was, by her own admission, “emotional,” but insisted that she was by no means “emotionally disturbed.”

The NYPD disagreed — they handcuffed her and sent her to the hospital.

According to the lawsuit Brock is filing, the “next thing you know, the police held onto me, the doctor stuck me with a needle and I was knocked out. I woke up to them taking off my underwear and then went out again. I woke up the next day in a hospital robe.”

She said she was heavily sedated by hospital employees, and she told The Daily News that she only mentioned to doctors that the president follows her on Twitter to show them “the type of person I am. I’m a good person, a positive person. Obama follows positive people.”

Instead, the lawsuit alleges the doctor made her discharge contingent upon her denying that Obama follows her on the social media site. According to her “master treatment plan,” one of the objectives that would trigger her release was that she “state that Obama is not following her on Twitter.”

No one at the hospital, she said, checked her Twitter account for objective proof of the truth of her claim.

In her lawsuit, Brock is attempting to recoup the $13,637.10 bill she received for her involuntary incarceration, as well as an unspecified amount of additional damages.

For God's sake....The whole world gone nuts!

 

[Wings_of_pain]

One of the douchiest cops of all time. Irony is, dude probably would have gotten off lighter if he would have shot him, at least that way he could have said he feared for his life.

 

[flenser]

Here's "Robo Cop" beating up a guy and planting crack in his car. Of course, @Mr. Deltoid will tell you he must have been doing something wrong. Police would never just beat the shit out of someone and arrest them just for fun. Just be polite and respectful and they will do the same..

 

[kawilt]

Speaking of "Police State" and corruption. At all the major airports there are little rooms within the customs area. Some of these rooms are salted.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Here's "Robo Cop" beating up a guy and planting crack in his car. Of course, @Mr. Deltoid will tell you he must have been doing something wrong. Police would never just beat the shit out of someone and arrest them just for fun. Just be polite and respectful and they will do the same..

Flesner there is without any doubt that police abuse their power at times. I never said that it never happens because it most certainly does , I even laid out an example of it happening to me when I was young dumb and full of cum. Man is flawed! All men are flawed and capable of terrible acts in the right situation. You give someone power and that changes them , everyone given that power changes some really get out of control no doubt. This is why we should run from the democrats and their progressive ideas , they and the media that covers for them want to give the police especially the federal police more power. Remember Waco , Texas they burned those people alive all white ask yourself what would the media have said if that was a Baptist coupound full of blacks that were set on fire? Or what if it were one of the many madrasas the Soudis have set up and the government went in and burned them alive? And it was a republican president and District atry. Instead of progressive democrats who were in charge of that atrocity. How about Ruby Ridge where the DEA under Janet Reno and Clinton went in and murdered that man's whole family . Do you think the media would have swept that under the rug if that were Bush and a black family instead of a white one? How about Elian Gonzalez in his family home the progressive Clinton rigime went in with ar15 and took this kid and sent him back to Cuba there's pictures of a Fed with an ar15 pointing at this little boys face. Oh there's definitely cases of brutality and out of control cops no doubt. It's just funny how when it's whites or conservative/libertarians you hear nothing about it. But then let a young black punk who robbed a store and fractured the cops face get put down as he should have and they make a false narrative about it to stir up hatred between our cultures. You know the same week that happened in Ferguson and unarmed white man was shot dead by a black cop and he didn't even touch the cop , the cop didn't have a mark on him.