Figured I'd start a little lot about my DNP run for those interested in running it. Right now I am on day 4 of 250mg/day. Will bump up the dose either tomorrow or day after. So far haven't noticed any sides.
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Shouldn't you notice a rapid increase in body temp? Like from day 1? I thought that is what the drug was designed for.
Scared of DNP personally, but very interested in your log. Im in! Good luck!
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How many days are you running? What's your starting weight/bf?
From the anecdotal reports I've read it takes a few days to really begin feeling it. Some even report barely feeling anything on 250mg.
Thank you for the well wishes Tube.
Right now the plan is around 3-4wks but that is subject to change.
5'10" and was 210 the day I started. BF is roughly 15% I'd say as on some days I can see some abs and veins are popping in my arms, quads, and calves among other places.
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I'll be following along, be safe with this Doc
WILCO brother thanks.
I agree...be safe.
Did you talk to johnnyBALLZ about his experience on dnp. It might help you out some?
Good luck
Did you talk to johnnyBALLZ about his experience on dnp. It might help you out some?
Good luck
Thanks MGH and no I have not talked to Johnny about it but I think I will. I've talked to some others from another board but you can't have too much info.
johnnyBALLZ
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Nope.. I don't feel 250mg at all and also hardly get any results at that dose. I know people that do though.
Good luck, docD.. Once you get to that 2nd cap the heat is going to be on!! Stay hydrated my friend.
Thanks Johnny and yes the plan is to drink plenty of fluids to help keep the best down to whatever extent possible.
And before Jim jumps on my ass Doc is my screen name not my profession.
So Doc why do you feel you need chemical weight-loss help compaired to calorie restriction ? Do you feel its too hard for you to control your appetite normally ?
(Im not ragging on you just trying to figure out why guys would gamble their health for a pounds of bodyweight that can be lost thru cal/carb restriction....)
Normally I can control my appetite. It's a struggle bc I like to eat but I can cut without any assistance. On tren my appetite is just beyond control though I tend to lean out still. Right now I'm trying to cut quickly as I maybe doing another PL meet in August or September. Bc of the time constraints and the extreme effectiveness of DNP I decided to use it now. I also believe the risks to be blown out of proportion as you can see in CBS' DNP thread.
Is there a recommended or preferred way of training during a dnp run?Considering the goal is fat loss.Its something ive never seen brought up and allways wondered.
Bc it's going to strip you of muscle glycogen high intensity as a percentage of your 1RM probably won't work out too well. Going for reps will probably work much better with somewhat lighter weights. Cardio shouldn't be done by the bucket loads either. Your body temps are going to be elevated already and too much cardio will just exacerbate that.
DNP will strip fat off you regardless of what you're doing training wise. It's possible to out eat DNP but you'd need to out away some serious calories to do so. Basically my advice would be to use less weight and more reps for your lifts, none to minimal cardio, and don't go for crazy long sessions either.
Maybee something like the old german body comp program would be interesting to run along side dnp or maybe not.
Have you ever heard of svt training?
Have you ever heard of svt training?
SVT or GVT (German Volume Training)? I have heard of GVT but not of SVT and no, GVT would be a bad choice to run on DNP. Can't speak about SVT.
Staggered-Volume Training
This little gem was designed by exercise physiologist Douglas Christ more than a decade ago. He claimed-and probably still does-that it’s the best program for maximizing growth hormone release. I wasn’t sure about that claim when he made it, and I’m still not sold. I do know, however, that it’s an excellent way to pack on some muscle when you’re stuck in a rut, particularly when you’ve been pounding away at Heavy Duty, low-rep-style routines.
Here are three keys to making this program work:
1) Perform full-body workouts three days a week.
2) Pick one exercise for each bodypart, sticking with more-bang-for-your-buck movements that work a lot of muscle groups at once.
3) Do a high volume of work.
Depending on your fitness and strength, do eight to 12 exercises for 12 to 16 reps each. Also-and here’s the kicker-you perform all sets in “jump-set” fashion, alternating exercises for antagonistic bodyparts in four-set groupings. For instance, you do four sets of a chest exercise, four sets of a back exercise, then go back to the chest exercise for four sets. Continue in that manner until you’ve performed all the prescribed sets for the two exercises.
Here are two examples of staggered-volume training programs The first is for beginners-or those not conditioned for full-body workouts-and the second is an advanced program.
Beginning Staggered-Volume Training
Perform the following program on three nonconsecutive days a week:
Leg presses 4 x 12-16
Lying leg curls 4 x 12-16
Leg presses 4 x 12-16
Lying leg curls 4 x 12-16
Incline-bench presses 4 x 12-16
Wide-grip chins 4 x max reps
Incline-bench presses 4 x 12- 16
Wide-grip chins 4 x max reps
Barbell curls 4 x 12-16
Bench dips 4 x 16
Barbell curls 4 x 12-16
Bench dips 4 x 16
Lateral raises 4 x 12-16
Incline situps 4 x 20-30
Here are a few more pointers for getting the most out of this program:
1) Don’t approach muscular failure except on the last rep of the last set of each exercise.
2) Use approximately 50 to 60 percent of your one-rep maximum-that should keep the intensity at the right level.
3) Take at least one minute of rest between sets; any less and you’ll become too fatigued. Don’t take more than 2 1/2 minutes between sets; any more and you won’t be working your muscles hard enough.
Advanced Staggered-Volume Training
This program is for trainees who already have a high level of strength and muscle development. Less-advanced trainees can use it after training on the beginning program for a couple of months.
Monday and Friday
Squats 4 x 12
Stiff-legged deadlifts 4 x 12
Squats 4 x 12
Stiff-legged deadlifts 4 x 12
Squats 4 x 12
Stiff-legged deadlifts 4 x 12
Incline barbell presses 4 x 12
Wide-grip chinsor lat pulldowns 4 x 12
Incline barbell presses 4 x 12
Wide-grip chins or lat pulldowns 4 x 12
Incline barbell presses 4 x 12
Wide-grip chins or lat pulldowns 4 x 12
Barbell curls 4 x 12
Lying dumbbell
triceps extensions 4 x 12
Barbell curls 4 x 12
Lying dumbbell
triceps extensions 4 x 12
Standing overhead presses 4 x 12
Hanging leg raises 4 x 20- 30
Wednesday
Leg extensions 4 x 20
Lying leg curls 4 x 20
Leg extensions 4 x 20
Lying leg curls 4 x 20
Flat-bench dumbbellpresses 4 x 16
Bent-over rows 4 x 16
Flat-bench dumbbell presses 4 x 16
Bent-over rows 4 x 16
Dumbbell curls 4 x 16
Skull crushers 4 x 16
Dumbbell curls 4 x 16
Skull crushers 4 x 16
Dumbbell curls 4 x 16
Skull crushers 4 x 16
Seated dumbbell overhead presses 4 x 16
Incline situps 4 x 20-30
This little gem was designed by exercise physiologist Douglas Christ more than a decade ago. He claimed-and probably still does-that it’s the best program for maximizing growth hormone release. I wasn’t sure about that claim when he made it, and I’m still not sold. I do know, however, that it’s an excellent way to pack on some muscle when you’re stuck in a rut, particularly when you’ve been pounding away at Heavy Duty, low-rep-style routines.
Here are three keys to making this program work:
1) Perform full-body workouts three days a week.
2) Pick one exercise for each bodypart, sticking with more-bang-for-your-buck movements that work a lot of muscle groups at once.
3) Do a high volume of work.
Depending on your fitness and strength, do eight to 12 exercises for 12 to 16 reps each. Also-and here’s the kicker-you perform all sets in “jump-set” fashion, alternating exercises for antagonistic bodyparts in four-set groupings. For instance, you do four sets of a chest exercise, four sets of a back exercise, then go back to the chest exercise for four sets. Continue in that manner until you’ve performed all the prescribed sets for the two exercises.
Here are two examples of staggered-volume training programs The first is for beginners-or those not conditioned for full-body workouts-and the second is an advanced program.
Beginning Staggered-Volume Training
Perform the following program on three nonconsecutive days a week:
Leg presses 4 x 12-16
Lying leg curls 4 x 12-16
Leg presses 4 x 12-16
Lying leg curls 4 x 12-16
Incline-bench presses 4 x 12-16
Wide-grip chins 4 x max reps
Incline-bench presses 4 x 12- 16
Wide-grip chins 4 x max reps
Barbell curls 4 x 12-16
Bench dips 4 x 16
Barbell curls 4 x 12-16
Bench dips 4 x 16
Lateral raises 4 x 12-16
Incline situps 4 x 20-30
Here are a few more pointers for getting the most out of this program:
1) Don’t approach muscular failure except on the last rep of the last set of each exercise.
2) Use approximately 50 to 60 percent of your one-rep maximum-that should keep the intensity at the right level.
3) Take at least one minute of rest between sets; any less and you’ll become too fatigued. Don’t take more than 2 1/2 minutes between sets; any more and you won’t be working your muscles hard enough.
Advanced Staggered-Volume Training
This program is for trainees who already have a high level of strength and muscle development. Less-advanced trainees can use it after training on the beginning program for a couple of months.
Monday and Friday
Squats 4 x 12
Stiff-legged deadlifts 4 x 12
Squats 4 x 12
Stiff-legged deadlifts 4 x 12
Squats 4 x 12
Stiff-legged deadlifts 4 x 12
Incline barbell presses 4 x 12
Wide-grip chinsor lat pulldowns 4 x 12
Incline barbell presses 4 x 12
Wide-grip chins or lat pulldowns 4 x 12
Incline barbell presses 4 x 12
Wide-grip chins or lat pulldowns 4 x 12
Barbell curls 4 x 12
Lying dumbbell
triceps extensions 4 x 12
Barbell curls 4 x 12
Lying dumbbell
triceps extensions 4 x 12
Standing overhead presses 4 x 12
Hanging leg raises 4 x 20- 30
Wednesday
Leg extensions 4 x 20
Lying leg curls 4 x 20
Leg extensions 4 x 20
Lying leg curls 4 x 20
Flat-bench dumbbellpresses 4 x 16
Bent-over rows 4 x 16
Flat-bench dumbbell presses 4 x 16
Bent-over rows 4 x 16
Dumbbell curls 4 x 16
Skull crushers 4 x 16
Dumbbell curls 4 x 16
Skull crushers 4 x 16
Dumbbell curls 4 x 16
Skull crushers 4 x 16
Seated dumbbell overhead presses 4 x 16
Incline situps 4 x 20-30
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