Pwo,Tren suspension.....mmmmmmhmmmmmm
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Daily or EOD test Cyp injections?????
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Pwo,Tren suspension.....mmmmmmhmmmmmm
Hey forever young what's happening.
I dropped the AI and have been going 50mg e3d and feel pretty good but I'm low shbg and my T falls faster than my E, relatively speaking.
I remember you once advocated 50mg e3d but now I see you are going daily.
A lot of guys are going daily now.
Just curious... Did you keep the same weekly dosage... Meaning do you inject 17mg daily? Or did you up it a bit because like you said it E won't get too high.
Just curious.
Thanks,
Jeff
You just brought a dead 2 year old thread back...
ironwill1951
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well if you get you test from a DR like I do (Watson) the insert and dr say inject every 14 days, I think I will go with the Watson chemist and pass on the bro science, I use cyp once a week, and when running trt dose every 10 days .
I Declare WAR!
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^ this
Even though I haven't heard from forever young (I hope he's ok), I have made the decision to go daily.
I've also increased my weekly dosage.
I will be injecting 22mg of cypionate daily with a 28g 1/2 inch insulin syringe into my tricep, delt, and quad.
I will get labs in a month or so and report back with results.
This is an attempt to keep my T levels towards the top of the range without a need for anastrozole.
If this fails I will have to incorporate an AI into my protocol and can fall back to twice weekly injections.
I've also increased my weekly dosage.
I will be injecting 22mg of cypionate daily with a 28g 1/2 inch insulin syringe into my tricep, delt, and quad.
I will get labs in a month or so and report back with results.
This is an attempt to keep my T levels towards the top of the range without a need for anastrozole.
If this fails I will have to incorporate an AI into my protocol and can fall back to twice weekly injections.
On trt and doc has me doing dose once every two weeks. I'd do once a week personally but more than that is of no noticeable benefit.
@cobra500, are you going through a longevity clinic for your TRT? I have friends who are on TRT with clinics like those. I swear their doc has them come in every two weeks due to scheduling convenience for both parties.
Over a long period of time I assume the half-life could balance the hormone release out, but in the first few months there would be a lot of ups and downs.
Over a long period of time I assume the half-life could balance the hormone release out, but in the first few months there would be a lot of ups and downs.
Nope, doc prescribed. Have been on every two weeks for the entire time. The best thing I found or was that a small amount goes a long way for me. Made me re-adjust amount used on cycle to much lower dosages even know I was very conservative to begin with.
My endo is very old and old school but open minded and since a couple of guys have brought up to his attention that 1 injection a week keeps bloods more stable. He himself told me to switch to 1 per week. If your endo is good, they will allow 1 injection per week. I take it a whole new level and do 2 50mg injections a week for 100mg total
foreveryoung
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sorry just noticed the thread.... after tons and tons of experiments over the years, I am doing every day cyp injections, it is just better in my experience
at the moment I do 25mg per day every day, usually with some tren and occasionally masteron or proviron in varying doses, but the 25mg of test cypionate every day is the base I try not to vary from, if I go too high in the test there is more drawbacks than benefits, 25mg seems to be the sweet spot.... I never touch any AI anymore, not good for you, better to adjust test to where you don't need an AI imho
Well your question is predicated on the notion there is no additional benefit to having all THREE TT values (peak trough and steady state).
Of course this "benefit" is the rationale behind using an anabolic agents half life to determine its dosing interval, and is also a primary reason one of the aims of TRT is to mimic the circadian rhythm of endogenous secretion.
Understand human physiologic processes have limitations also and they are much more extensive than some realize.
To that end having "enough testosterone" is only a MINOR, (nonetheless important) component of SKM anabolism once supraphysiologic TT levels are reached. What do you believe it's a pure coincidence morning erections occur at PEAK TT levels? Oh I think not and know better
In fact there's several reasons to believe ones TT level is no longer the RATE LIMITING factor once supraphysiologic values are reached, otherwise one would note a infinitely proportional dose/response TT anabolic "curve". (I'm not saying addition TT can not provide an additional benefit but that there's a limit to its proportionality)
Some well established factors include enzymatic efficiency, nuclear DNA/RNA transcription, RNA duplication, AA/Peptide/Polypeptide/Proteinsynthesis, Collagenous replication and assembly. Cofactors availability etc, ect, etc.
To that end since humans are not capable of storing exogenously administered TT ask your mates what they believe happens to any "extra"?
For yourself the cardinal rule; if you don't use it you lose it applies, but quite likely in the form of expensive urine!
Jim
ironwill1951
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How long have you been adding tren to your trt? I remember reading a old thread about you doing that.
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