Do it, seriously, I think you'll love it.
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Anabolic Steroids
Wunderpus' get bigger cycle
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Seems it's my tris that respond the most along with my bis almost as strongly so needing to hit delts and forearms more. May adapt that program
@OdieM you should try the "1 day arm cure" on t nation. Youre basically at the gym for 8 hours hitting arms lol, bring your food etc and then don't train arms before or after x amount of Days. It's absurd yes, but some people claim up to an 1" in growth (most say this Is just your arms literally being swollen).
I'm thinking about doing it just for the hell of it at the end of this cycle after I throw in some dbol to close it out. Because well, why not
HuckingFuge
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I'm always going to be a hater, cause most of the BB now days do not look real. all these people walking around with 20+ inch arms are most likely fake. you do what you want it is your body. the end of the day did you or anyone else earn that size?
Sure is good to see you back here posting HF, hope all is well with you brother!!!
Try this for your delts:
Superset 10 reps of front raises, 10 reps of side lateral raises and 10 reps of face pulls. Do this 4 or 5 times... If that doesn't cause your shoulders to grow / pump..... Time for implants!
Thanks will be doing more of those on arm day
D-Ballin
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I do those, with bent over raises.
Those side raises hurt like a bitch by the third set. Really thrashes everything by that point.
Yes! Also, no cheating! These reps should be textbook!
Thanks will be doing more of those on arm day
HuckingFuge
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Okay, so keep in mind I'm not an expert, but here is my general idea of how it seems to work... Keep in mind, people are so fucking vague with info about synthol online, it's actually quite irritating.
With the synthol that has silica added, it is significantly MORE permanent. When the oil is absorbed, the silica remains.
With the synthol that's just oil, lidocaine etc., the oil does disappear. The idea of this synthol is the oil "stretches" the fascia temporarily. With that, allegedly, there is more "room" for the tissue to grow.
Basically, option 1 with the silica is more of an implant, and option 2 is a temporary "stretch" to allow growth. I am more attracted to option 2. You shouldn't be "stuck" with the size increase with option 2, as it's not leaving a permanent substance behind, it's a lot like AAS injections. The primary differences are the amount (~3ccs for gear vs. ~9ccs for synthol), the oil type/viscosity and the injection method (synthol goes into the heads of the muscle, whereas AAS is ideally injected into the belly or the thickest part).
With the other gains you're currently making, I'm sure they happen simultaneously. Theoretically, they should happen at a faster rate.
As far as arm size, I actually don't have a clue! I will measure them when I can. But truthfully, the size doesn't matter to me as much as the overall appearance and proportions.
As with many things friend, the public dwells on the negatives... Have you ever looked at Yelp! reviews? People only go on to talk shit, rarely give praise. Humans are attracted to negativity in general...
Thanks brother, it's always been my goal to keep my experiences/log as honest and open as possible. It will always be used as an open forum where all questions, comments and thoughts are allowed.
Genetics are funny. You know, I was talking with a good friend of mine yesterday about it. He's about 45 and has YEARS of training clients under his belt, so the knowledge is there. I was talking to him about synthol, and I think I changed his opinion a bit. He knows that I work my ass off, and do what I believe it everything I can to grow. He started by saying the addition of synthol gives the ILLUSION of fitness, therefore it is fundamentally wrong. This truly is a great point, as a lot of bodybuilding is giving the illusion of fitness. However, the introduction of things like DNP (as you mentioned), diuretics etc. give the ILLUSION of fitness, when they're really the opposite! He wasn't aware of the two different types of synthol, and in what ways the two work... We both did however come to the general consensus for now it's better to NOT use synthol as I prepare for a cut, just seems counterproductive...
I haven't tried TOO much of Mentzer's stuff, I really don't enjoy pre exhausting tris before chest, for example. I suppose I could dabble in it more, however I think adding an FST 7 routine to the end of my arm day as @OdieM recommended might be my first change. I haven't done FST 7 in a while, and I actually used to love it to finish up a GVT session. For example, I'd do a 10x10 on squats and if my quads were lagging hit an FST 7 on quads, worked pretty damn well.
As a whole, we generally frown upon synthol, however we idolize/respect those who clearly use it... I do believe it's a bit of a double standard.
I repect Jay Cutler tremendously, take a look at his bicep and tell me if YOU think there's synthol in there:
The list goes on... Lee Priest, Kai Greene (his lats look like tubes of oil)....
option 2 is a lie. BB is just becoming who can shoot up the most synthol now days. the only way to achieve the look of BB today is to load up on synthol. I can spot a guy using synthol a mile away.
HuckingFuge
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I thought about using synthol for about a month way back in the day. synthol has never crossed my mind again. if I can not achieve the look I want through AAS, peptides, and food. that look must be fake like all the BB today.
HuckingFuge
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boston loyd is a joke. all he has are arms and shoulders. look at the rest of him. if it wasn't for the synthol he wouldn't have arms or shoulders either.
HuckingFuge
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HuckingFuge
New Member
These guys didn't use:
Synthol
GH
Insulin
Aromatase inhibitors
And they looked better than any body on the scene now. Word is that little bastard columbu was strong as hell too
One other thing if your having issues developing certain areas pull a frank Zane and drop a few and compete ultra ripped. Frank is always the hard gainers favorite weapon. He couldn't compete with arnold not at his size. So he said fuck you and went for the freaky cut look. Imagine how much more in proportion your arms would look at 220. Solid like a fuckin tank! Work your genes don't let them work you.
One other thing @HuckingFuge how big you think arnies arms really were? I think he claimed 22's? Maybe just an illusion
Synthol
GH
Insulin
Aromatase inhibitors
And they looked better than any body on the scene now. Word is that little bastard columbu was strong as hell too
One other thing if your having issues developing certain areas pull a frank Zane and drop a few and compete ultra ripped. Frank is always the hard gainers favorite weapon. He couldn't compete with arnold not at his size. So he said fuck you and went for the freaky cut look. Imagine how much more in proportion your arms would look at 220. Solid like a fuckin tank! Work your genes don't let them work you.
One other thing @HuckingFuge how big you think arnies arms really were? I think he claimed 22's? Maybe just an illusion
OdieM
Banned
These guys didn't use:
Synthol
GH
Insulin
Aromatase inhibitors
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And they looked better than any body on the scene now. Word is that little bastard columbu was strong as hell too
One other thing if your having issues developing certain areas pull a frank Zane and drop a few and compete ultra ripped. Frank is always the hard gainers favorite weapon. He couldn't compete with arnold not at his size. So he said fuck you and went for the freaky cut look. Imagine how much more in proportion your arms would look at 220. Solid like a fuckin tank! Work your genes don't let them work you.
One other thing @HuckingFuge how big you think arnies arms really were? I think he claimed 22's? Maybe just an illusion
Holy fuck they caught Arnold at just the right angle. Look at those freaking arms.
I love when people say Arnold had shitty genetics... LOL. Back then it was all work, genetics, diet and a bit of drugs. Now it's completely different.
HuckingFuge
New Member
These guys didn't use:
Synthol
GH
Insulin
Aromatase inhibitors
View attachment 34822 View attachment 34823 View attachment 34824
And they looked better than any body on the scene now. Word is that little bastard columbu was strong as hell too
One other thing if your having issues developing certain areas pull a frank Zane and drop a few and compete ultra ripped. Frank is always the hard gainers favorite weapon. He couldn't compete with arnold not at his size. So he said fuck you and went for the freaky cut look. Imagine how much more in proportion your arms would look at 220. Solid like a fuckin tank! Work your genes don't let them work you.
One other thing @HuckingFuge how big you think arnies arms really were? I think he claimed 22's? Maybe just an illusion
I remember reading an article back in the 80's that said few people had bigger than 18" arms. Arnie has awesome peaks, so he could of had 20" arms. I think 22" arms was probably a stretch. seems like everyone embellishes.
