Ive been doing a lot of reading about aas but it seems the risk of just trying to purchase out weighs everything so im considering trying pro hormones my question is are they still the same as years ago (no where near as effective as real gear and with way worse sides) or have they improved at all thanks.
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Anabolic Steroids
pro hormone question
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TANGO.ECHO.KILO
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you need to ask about a specific compound for guys to give you experience based advice...
Want to run test with them as well. I just think of most Phs as "designer steroids" that haven't been banned yet. Just another oral that can work in conjunction with testosterone and other aas
Want to run test with them as well. I just think of most Phs as "designer steroids" that haven't been banned yet. Just another oral that can work in conjunction with testosterone and other aas
TANGO.ECHO.KILO
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hold off until you can get test.
T_verde77
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I would use test. Never been a fan of pro hormones. they are listed as class 1 drug now In the U.S and are illegal as of a few months ago
Prohormones suck. You can find gear domestically which has very little risk. The entire idea of using prohormones as the building blocks of the real thing, which is readily available, makes no sense.
There is always a risk. If you are smart, there is very little risk, but if you can't accept risk, you are better off using prohormones. They will not do anything for you though. You just won't be getting in over your head. That's good for everyone.
There is always a risk. If you are smart, there is very little risk, but if you can't accept risk, you are better off using prohormones. They will not do anything for you though. You just won't be getting in over your head. That's good for everyone.
Janoy crevesa
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woah dude. You cant just say blanket statements like "prohormones suck" and imply that "prohormones" don't have risk. Some legit prohormones like trendione and diendione, along with a few others can be pretty potent. The designers like methylstenbolone also are potent as shit.
Janoy crevesa
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If you cant find the gear, youre probably better off not using it.
DedLift
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All of the prohormones that used to be decent have been banned. The FDA made a blanket list covering all pros and making them illegal. Now what's happening is Joe nobody is playing around in his lab to try to create a compound that isn't listed in the ban and is doing so at the risk of your health with no concern at all for what the side effects could be and he doesn't care. He's just trying to make money and you'd be the guinea pig. What often happens is guys end up in the hospital with liver failure and jaundice because what they took in essence was purely experimental and dangerous. The risks in this case are your health, not LE. Stay away, do some more homework and find a decent ugl
elitephysiques
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Actually Id reckon most of your post was quite ignorant. A lot of UK suppliers (which is where all the ph's are coming from now) are supplying perfectly legit and reviewed safe ph's made the EXACT same way as they always have been. No one is being a test subject as pretty much all of these compounds have been tried and true. predatornutrit, jwsupps, etc
T_verde77
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"Tried and true" good luck with that. I personally got fuked up by some pro hormones along with many other people. I'm not going to state the name of it, but it's not available anymore atleast under the same name. they change the names once it's banned and sell the same garbage.
But prohormones are illegal too...
A prohormone is NOT the equivalent of a designer AAS which both diendione and methylstenbolone are.
The primary distinction is a "prohormone" exhibits little to no intrinsic activity absent certain metabolic processes that convert it into the active compound.
As far as effectiveness is concerned, I'm awaiting that evidence on behalf of supplement manufactures, but don't hold your breath.
One thing is for certain, some of the most hepatotoxic AAS are those currently listed as designer AAS, and were once being sold as "prohormone" supplements.
Are pro hormones safe? If they are effective and elicit an anabolic response similar to AAS their RISK will be NO LESS.
There's two issues with pro-hormones that make them an unattractive AAS substitute IMO.
Unlike many of the AAS that are in use today and are available by RX, or have a relatively prolonged, (albeit much of it anecdotal) track record, there is NO credible scientific evidence that has evaluated their safety AND efficacy as anabolic agents.
WHAT HAS BEEN REPORTED? Several of these agents have been removed from the market bc of "toxic" (usually hepatic) adverse effects.
BUYER BEWARE!
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T_verde77
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Like the dr said. It makes my liver hurt just thinking about how bad those orals are for your liver. I'm not saying they don't work but why? Are u scared of needles?
T_verde77
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^^^^
That's one reason unless an UGL oral AAS product has been tested and is from a company with a sound quality history, I suggest using ONLY pharm grade.
That's one reason unless an UGL oral AAS product has been tested and is from a company with a sound quality history, I suggest using ONLY pharm grade.
Janoy crevesa
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no I was correct in what I said. DienDIONE is a prohormone. dienolone is the parent. I also said designers before I mentioned methylsten.
That's why I said is everything same as a couple years back I remember them actually being legal and I've seen them in gnc and the vitamin shoppe I'd prefer to use aas but I'm just worried about trying to buy online cuz I feel I'm gonna get scamed
T_verde77
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Most people get scammed at some point. Order small first. Once u find a source stick with them
