I read it a while ago and re-read it after the switch. Trust me Dr JIM i would NOT have purposely ordered generic GH.
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I read it a while ago and re-read it after the switch. Trust me Dr JIM i would NOT have purposely ordered generic GH.
Ha know what really shocks me is why haven't UGL been forced to post their own damn GH testing?
Bc they don't have to, as folk are willing to use this stuff absent a lick of testing!
And please spare me the BS about how "we won't believe" what they post.
Karl did that and the reason it wasn't deemed trustworthy by Meso members was bc his testing was FLAWED, and the sides some developed was proof enough the quality was sorely lacking IMO.
Bc they don't have to, as folk are willing to use this stuff absent a lick of testing!
And please spare me the BS about how "we won't believe" what they post.
Karl did that and the reason it wasn't deemed trustworthy by Meso members was bc his testing was FLAWED, and the sides some developed was proof enough the quality was sorely lacking IMO.
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Hey that's your biz mate, I'm just concerned about the risk especially from long term use.
Wouldn't that depend upon WHY you're wanting to use GH?
Anti-aging who ever said GH was used for such a purpose?
Have you had a TT level checked, bc although GH in the absence of at least physiologic TT levels may improve ones LBM, it's a paltry anabolic agent in its absence. The synergy is extremely important.
More important if your operating a physically demanding biz at your age, you better start looking for some young buck to do all that heavy lifting.
And my latter GH comment IS evidence based fella!
Have you had a TT level checked, bc although GH in the absence of at least physiologic TT levels may improve ones LBM, it's a paltry anabolic agent in its absence. The synergy is extremely important.
More important if your operating a physically demanding biz at your age, you better start looking for some young buck to do all that heavy lifting.
And my latter GH comment IS evidence based fella!
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If you want to ensure the efficacy and safety are optimized, you NEED baseline hormonal levels (IGF, TT, E-2, LH/FSH etc) and darn sure should NOT start Pharmaceutical rHGH at 2-3 IUs / day.
Follow the package insert instructions on dosing, or chances are you'll regret it!
They are readily available on line for Pharm grade GH
Follow the package insert instructions on dosing, or chances are you'll regret it!
They are readily available on line for Pharm grade GH
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And now you're wanting to add GH, WHY,?
As a means of"competing" with those younger than yourself within the workplace?
Eventually you'll realize that's no longer possible and will be forced to face "it is what it is" and there's no way to mitigate the aging process, thru the use of ANY DRUG.
IN fact thru a variety of mechanisms , which mask their signs and symptoms, the use of PEDS at your age are more likely to exacerbate occult M-S
pathology. The fitting colloquialism is pay me now or pay me later!
Thus IMO based on what you've told me the risks exceed the benefit.
Good luck!
As a means of"competing" with those younger than yourself within the workplace?
Eventually you'll realize that's no longer possible and will be forced to face "it is what it is" and there's no way to mitigate the aging process, thru the use of ANY DRUG.
IN fact thru a variety of mechanisms , which mask their signs and symptoms, the use of PEDS at your age are more likely to exacerbate occult M-S
pathology. The fitting colloquialism is pay me now or pay me later!
Thus IMO based on what you've told me the risks exceed the benefit.
Good luck!
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Oh and finally, I hope you have been evaluated for, and there's no evidence of HTN being a part of your PMH!
I mention this bc much like the effects of GH and TT on SKM, a similar synergy seems quite likely on CARDIAC MUSCLE, and LVH is the bane of anyone using AAS/GH, bc the effects are largely IRREVERSIBLE!
So a 41 year old has much more to consider than MASS, such as kids, family, occupation, etc and the adverse effects of PEDs tends to become more salient and clinically apparent with advancing age.
Any 41 year old should darn sure be followed by a physician or you could follow the plight of a 42 year old I JUST ADMITTED to the hospital for Congestive Heart Failure!
I mention this bc much like the effects of GH and TT on SKM, a similar synergy seems quite likely on CARDIAC MUSCLE, and LVH is the bane of anyone using AAS/GH, bc the effects are largely IRREVERSIBLE!
So a 41 year old has much more to consider than MASS, such as kids, family, occupation, etc and the adverse effects of PEDs tends to become more salient and clinically apparent with advancing age.
Any 41 year old should darn sure be followed by a physician or you could follow the plight of a 42 year old I JUST ADMITTED to the hospital for Congestive Heart Failure!
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So "be safe" by being SMART!
I do wish you well Steve.
Jim
I do wish you well Steve.
Jim
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Jim, I believe in complete transparency. So while you never completely answered my questions regarding your testing and withheld raw data; I will be happy to give you direct contact information in private of the person that did the testing. Just let me know.
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Don't be so sure on Simec. I am not very happy with how things have turned out thus far. Our 6mg Serostim sample supposedly contained 22.6iu of 99.5% GH and Karl's GH contains 28.7iu of 98% GH. In fact all 11 samples were grossly overdosed. They have yet to give me the raw data and it has been 2 days since they said they would look at the data and chromatograms again and see if they can find any errors. At the moment we are looking at $6K down the drain.
Check an IGF level bc if you're below the tenth percentile supplemental GH MAY prove to be a worthwhile endeavor as it can improve LBM, with negligible adverse effects based UPON CLINICAL STUDIES.
Jim,
I am in my early 40s. My baseline IGF-1 were in low range. What time of day would you recommend dosing g-hgh to improve LBM.
I am currently at 2-3iu 5 on and 2 off taken before bed. Would you recommend splitting dose if I was to use 4iu? Such as 2iu 1st thing in morning and 2iu before bed.
Would HGH help with my acne scars?
Thanks. Appreciate all that you do for this community.
Time of day GH administration is likely much to do about nothing bc although there may be some differences in the IGF levels generated, whether such changes are of clinical import remains questionable IMO.
That being said, in part bc of GH's several minute half life, I tend to prefer BID dosing ESPECIALLY at high (greater than 4-5 IU/day) dosages
You want to impact IGF levels w GH, sure, then ensure the rHGH your running is Pharmaceutical
And for goodness sake ensure you dont have a hypertensive baseline, bla, bla, bla.
That being said, in part bc of GH's several minute half life, I tend to prefer BID dosing ESPECIALLY at high (greater than 4-5 IU/day) dosages
You want to impact IGF levels w GH, sure, then ensure the rHGH your running is Pharmaceutical
And for goodness sake ensure you dont have a hypertensive baseline, bla, bla, bla.
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Have you come to accept the limited AAS data showing a correlation with LVH is now persuasive enough to be concerned with the risk?
The last I remember is that you were unconvinced.
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