I feel you. I agree, it's a lifestyle change that's hard to achieve for lots of people without the extra curricular substances. Wasn't trying to misrepresent anything. Admitted, I have zero knowledge of DNP other than the stuff you hear people pontificate about it, good bad or other wise. I'm just trying to learn about it.
All I really know is that it sounds like hell when on it lol. Even the guys that love it say it sucks to take so I'm sure that much is true.
Personally, diet and cardio put me in a good place but I have never tried to BB or get down that far on the BF% level that I would contemplate using it.
I also feel like the word diet is misused. It seems to be used as a term to describe a short term fix where it should really be an everyday word to describe nutrient intake, not one's short term effort to loose wieght.
I.E. - My 'diet' is good. I need to loose some extra pounds so I will 'restrict' carbs in my diet...
If 'diet' was a lifetime choice maybe DNP wouldn't be used at all?