any of you folks know a legit dnp source

[ironwill1951]

most guys that take dnp are just to lazy to diet and use a tredmill.

 

[Sdryx]

most guys that take dnp are just to lazy to diet and use a tredmill.

Honestly, if you aren't competing you shouldn't use DNP. If you can't get the weight off naturally, you aren't gonna keep the weight off after using DNP. Also, DNP makes you feel miserable. So why go through it if you are not going to keep the weight off by adjusting your diet/training.

 

[mghoward74]

I find it funny most people who make comments about dnp use....HAVE NEVER USED DNP!

If I need to change out a blown headgasket on 62 impala, I'm not going to ask someone who never seen a 62 impala, or worst, dosent know what a head gasket is...

 

[MrRippedZilla]

Seems to be hard to find DNP. Maybe the raws are in short supply and it's all dried up. Watching this thread for any info though.

There is ALOT of unwanted attention on DNP, that's why it's become a pain in the ass to source.
I will warn everyone of using any "new" sources for this compound - you don't want some punk ass kid who's been capping in his kitchen for a week to be giving you this stuff. Seriously.

Well sir you don't really know how your body will react to 250 mg. Why would you take a drug that can quite literally kill you, you may think these people are joking but dnp with fucking kill you. Go buy some ketotifen take it with your clen, stay on your clen a little longer and fucking live your life. Don't die for 15lbs of fat loss

The dose makes the poison and there has only been 1 case study that I'm aware of showing death at 300mg. None whatsoever at 250mg.

And fucking LOL at you recommending a long run of clen as a safe alternative to a low dose of DNP. Just stop. Please.

DNP is notorious for a reason, I think I know more people who took it and died than actually survived

DNP is notorious for attracting moron dieters with a "more is better" attitude, yes.

If you genuinely know more people who have died than survived on DNP, then I conclude that your circle of friends are morons. I suggest finding smartedr individuals to associate with.

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Thanks to @censorboardssuck for posting this over a year ago


It's the time of year when bodybuilders start looking for ways to shed body fat and the interest for many invariably turns to DNP. There are articles on the internet that suggest DNP can be used safely if you're smart about it. Nothing could be further from the truth. DNP is a poison that has lead to cataracts, renal failure and deaths due to hyperthermia. It has an extremely narrow therapeutic index, i.e. the dose of DNP required to induce weight loss is very close to its lethal dose. In addition, its effects are unpredictable. A dose that was well tolerated in a previous cycle might not be tolerated on the next. As the use of DNP continues to gain in popularity, the death rate will continue to climb. There is no safe dose of DNP.

The first two studies below note the dosage of DNP in which deaths have occurred. These dosages are the same dosages currently being advertised as safe and the ones most often used by bodybuilders.
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According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, deaths have occurred in people who ingested 3--46 mg of dinitrophenols per kg of body weight per day (3-46 mg/kg/day) for short periods or 1--4 mg/kg/day for long periods.

Reports of DNP poisoning related to weight loss appear to be becoming more common. McFee et al. (13) reported the death of a 22-year-old male 16 h after his last DNP dose, estimated at 600 mg/day over four days for weight loss.


Journal of Analytical Toxicology, Vol. 30, April 2006
Case Report
Two Deaths Attributed to the Use of 2,4-Dinitrophenol
Estuardo J. Miranda 1, lain M. Mclntyre 2, Dawn R. Parker 2, Ray D. Gary 2, and Barry K. Logan TM


We report the cases of two individuals, one in Tacoma, WA, and
the second in San Diego, CA, whose deaths were attributed to
ingestion of 2,4-dinitrophenol (2,4-DNP). 2,4-DNP has historically
been used as a herbicide and fungicide. By uncoupling
mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation, the drug causes a
marked increase in fat metabolism that has led to its use to aid
weight loss. Both cases reported here involved its use for this
purpose. Features common to both cases included markedly
elevated body temperature, rapid pulse and respiration, yellow
coloring of the viscera at autopsy, history of use of weight loss or
body building supplements, and presence of a yellow powder at
the decedent's residence. Because of its acidic nature, the drug is
not detected in the basic drug fraction of most analytical protocols,
but it is recovered in the acid/neutral fraction of biological extracts
and can be measured by high-performance liquid chromatography
or gas chromatography-mass spectrometry. The concentration
of 2,4-DNP in the admission blood samples of the two deaths
reported here were 36.1 and 28 rag/L, respectively. Death in both
cases was attributed to 2,4-DNP toxicity. Review of information
available on the internet suggests that, although banned,
2,4-DNP is still illicitly promoted for weight loss.
Introduction


[In the paper below, McFee et al. reported the death of a 22-year-old male 16 h after his last DNP dose, estimated at 600 mg/day over four days.]

Vet Hum Toxicol. 2004 Oct;46(5):251-4.
Dying to be thin: a dinitrophenol related fatality.
McFee RB1, Caraccio TR, McGuigan MA, Reynolds SA, Bellanger P.

Abstract
2, 4-dinitrophenol (DNP) was originally used as an explosive and later introduced in the 1930's to stimulate metabolism and promote weight loss. It's also a component of pesticides still available globally. Concerns about hyperpyrexia lead to DNP being banned as a dietary aid in 1938. A 22-y-old male presented to the Emergency Department (ED) with a change in mental status 16 h after his last dose of DNP. On admission he was diaphoretic and febrile with an oral temperature of 102 F, but lucid and cooperative. He became agitated and delirious. Intravenous midazolam was initiated with mechanical cooling. Pancuronium was administered later and the patient was intubated. Over the next hour the patient became bradycardic, then asystolic, and despite resuscitative efforts, died. Advertisements claim DNP safe at the dose our patient ingested. It is widely available and with the potential to cause severe toxicity is an understudied public health concern.



Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology 48 (2007) 115–1
Dinitrophenol and obesity: An early twentieth-century regulatory dilemma
Eric Colman

Abstract

In the early 1930s, the industrial chemical dinitrophenol found widespread favor as a weight-loss drug, due principally to the work of Maurice Tainter, a clinical pharmacologist from Stanford University. Unfortunately the compound’s therapeutic index was razor thin and it was not until thousands of people suffered irreversible harm that mainstream physicians realized that dinitrophenol’s risks outweighed its benefits and abandoned its use. Yet, it took passage of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act in 1938 before federal regulators had the ability to stop patent medicine men from selling dinitrophenol to Americans lured by the promise of a drug that would safely melt one’s fat away.


Cyril MacBryde, a physiologist from Washington University School of Medicine, reported ‘‘alarming functional changes’’ indicative of liver, heart, and muscle toxicity in his obese patients treated with small doses of dinitrophenol (MacBryde and Taussig, 1935).

But some physicians continued to believe that the drug was a reasonable therapeutic option for obese patients recalcitrant to dietary intervention when used in the properdose and under the care of a knowledgeable physician. Even this position, however, became untenable when young women taking therapeutic doses of dinitrophenol under the supervision of physicians started going blind (Horner et al., 1935). If the estimate of one San Francisco ophthalmologist is accurate, during a two and a half year span, as many as 2500 Americans may have lost their sight due to what became known as ‘‘dinitrophenol cataracts’’ (Horner, 1936).



Australas J Dermatol. 2014 Nov 4. doi: 10.1111/ajd.12237. [Epub ahead of print]
Cutaneous drug toxicity from 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP): Case report and histological description.
Le P1, Wood B, Kumarasinghe SP.

Abstract
The use of 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) has regained popularity as a weight loss aid in the last two decades due to increased marketing to bodybuilders and the increasing availability of this banned substance via the Internet. 2,4-DNP is a drug of narrow therapeutic index and toxicity results in hyperthermia, diaphoresis, tachycardia, tachypnoea and possible cardiac arrest and death. Skin toxicity from 2,4-DNP has not been reported since the 1930s. We report a case of a 21-year-old bodybuilding enthusiast who presented with a toxic exanthem after taking 2,4-DNP, and describe the first skin biopsy findings in a case of 2,4-DNP toxicity.

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Oh Roger, why not just link the actual thread so people can see the FULL picture hmm
Here we go: Think DNP Can Be Used Safely? Think Again

 

[Roger rabbit]

There is ALOT of unwanted attention on DNP, that's why it's become a pain in the ass to source.
I will warn everyone of using any "new" sources for this compound - you don't want some punk ass kid who's been capping in his kitchen for a week to be giving you this stuff. Seriously.



The dose makes the poison and there has only been 1 case study that I'm aware of showing death at 300mg. None whatsoever at 250mg.

And fucking LOL at you recommending a long run of clen as a safe alternative to a low dose of DNP. Just stop. Please.



DNP is notorious for attracting moron dieters with a "more is better" attitude, yes.

If you genuinely know more people who have died than survived on DNP, then I conclude that your circle of friends are morons. I suggest finding smartedr individuals to associate with.



Oh Roger, why not just link the actual thread so people can see the FULL picture hmm
Here we go: Think DNP Can Be Used Safely? Think Again

Didn't know how so I just copied and post and gave credit to censorboardsucks.


Thanks for taking care of the link


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[Roco Bama]

Didn't know how so I just copied and post and gave credit to censorboardsucks.


Thanks for taking care of the link


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thanks for posting that long ass thread anyway. I decided not to cycle that poison. what i dont like hearing about dnp besides the harsh side effects is that it makes u crave carbs like it is pussy and u end up binging on foods , resulting less fat loss.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Probably a good call. I know a lot are saying people who don't use have no idea etc, and that if done properly it is not a big deal. But, the way I look at it is.... Lots of people do stunts on bikes, cars, etc and it works out for them then that one time they die. To me, it is not worth the gamble.


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[DonQKong]

I find it funny most people who make comments about dnp use....HAVE NEVER USED DNP!

If I need to change out a blown headgasket on 62 impala, I'm not going to ask someone who never seen a 62 impala, or worst, dosent know what a head gasket is...

Mate, spot on! You dont know how many times I've said similar things. 75% of the ones against gained their Ph.D. In DNP through Google, and formed an opinion based on the direct stigma the powers that be need to cast on this extremely powerful, yet dangerous drug.

I've used DNP for years, and am starting a burst tomorrow actually. Call me lazy, call me too poor for a treadmill, but you can say something very similar about Aas or a fleshlight.

Truth is less people die from DNP than cucumbers per year, and as long as this board continues to aid new users in safe, sound and reasonable use of the compound instead of casting non-constructive stigma, we will help those users exploring DNPs fantastic power whilst steering away from its dangerousotivity.

I have spoken, nay-Sayers and trolls may GTFO

DQ

 

[ickyrica]

It's crazy to me how this one substance is so polarizing.

 

[guyzcool]

I find it funny most people who make comments about dnp use....HAVE NEVER USED DNP!

If I need to change out a blown headgasket on 62 impala, I'm not going to ask someone who never seen a 62 impala, or worst, dosent know what a head gasket is...

Yeah maybe because those who took the dnp have died and can't give you advice because they are dead as hell

 

[ickyrica]

But when it turns you into a baked potato....

 

[ironwill1951]

explain to me why dnp which is a short term fix is better than learning a proper diet and cardio which is a lifetime fix ?

I find it funny most people who make comments about dnp use....HAVE NEVER USED DNP!

If I need to change out a blown headgasket on 62 impala, I'm not going to ask someone who never seen a 62 impala, or worst, dosent know what a head gasket is...

 

[AlphaLife]

explain to me why dnp which is a short term fix is better than learning a proper diet and cardio which is a lifetime fix ?

No one said it was better. In fact, the original post talks exactly about having done that first. But you didn't want to read the whole thread did you?

 

[mghoward74]

explain to me why dnp which is a short term fix is better than learning a proper diet and cardio which is a lifetime fix ?

Did I ever say that?

That's like saying why use aas or hgh, when you COULD POSSIBLY increase it naturally through diet & exercise.

Weight lifting naturally using hard work will keep gains far longer than using aas for short period of time.

I can pm you question and know that you'll give me info on your experience. I don't think you'd tell me how to use a compound if you never used it yourself.

Yeah maybe because those who took the dnp have died and can't give you advice because they are dead as hell

Sounds very immature, something like a kid woukld say. Have you used dnp? Before you became a WKM, did you ever pin aas?

Are you here to learn or try to be a smart ass? Seems like you're jumping on the band wagon against something you know nothing about.

When I respond to a thread it's because I'm personally vested in it....meaning I have 1st hand experience, from purchasing raws to using insulin and dnp.

Did you ever think that the reason why those individuals didn't finish their log is because they wasn't satisfied with the results? I got a log here going for 500 lbs on bench press. Want to know why that log isn't finished? Sure as hell didn't die! SHOULDER INJURY

 

[MrRippedZilla]

explain to me why dnp which is a short term fix is better than learning a proper diet and cardio which is a lifetime fix ?

Might want to check the latest obesity statistics man - good old fashioned diet + cardio has been a MASSIVE failure when it comes to long term, permanent change

Not that I'm suggesting DNP is the solution, but there is a very good reason why the industry is obsessed with pharmaceutical treatment, mitochondrial uncouplers included. Diet + cardio has failed.

 

[DonQKong]

Not that I'm suggesting DNP is the solution, but there is a very good reason why the industry is obsessed with pharmaceutical treatment, mitochondrial uncouplers included. Diet + cardio has failed.

Diet and cardio sux ass. Even the Romans understood it tickling their throats with a feather - nothing beats going bulimic.

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[ironwill1951]

I hope you were kidding, obesity stats are high because people don't do a proper diet and cardio. damn man if you burn more calories than you take in you will lose weight that is a simple fact.. and to believe any different is just plain foolish. good old fashion diet and cardio has never and never will be a failure.

Might want to check the latest obesity statistics man - good old fashioned diet + cardio has been a MASSIVE failure when it comes to long term, permanent change

Not that I'm suggesting DNP is the solution, but there is a very good reason why the industry is obsessed with pharmaceutical treatment, mitochondrial uncouplers included. Diet + cardio has failed.

 

[ironwill1951]

yes I read the whole thing smart ass.

No one said it was better. In fact, the original post talks exactly about having done that first. But you didn't want to read the whole thread did you?

 

[AlphaLife]

yes I read the whole thing smart ass.

Next step is comprehension.

 

[MrRippedZilla]

I hope you were kidding, obesity stats are high because people don't do a proper diet and cardio. damn man if you burn more calories than you take in you will lose weight that is a simple fact.. and to believe any different is just plain foolish. good old fashion diet and cardio has never and never will be a failure.

I suggest you work on your reading comprehension.
No where did I state that diet + cardio doesn't work for fat loss, of course it does. What I stated was that it doesn't work for LONG TERM, PERMANENT change in response to your comment about diet & cardio being a "lifetime fix" - no it isn't.

It has been shown over & over again that the vast majority of people who drop the weight inevitably regain it, for more info please see:
Biological mechanisms that promote weight regain following weight loss in obese humans. - PubMed - NCBI - review on the physiological changes that occur making it difficult to maintain progress
Long-term weight loss maintenance. - PubMed - NCBI - shows only 10-20% of individuals being capable of maintaining weight loss of 5% for the long term.

If you had any idea about appetite regulation or human biology then you would understand why diet+cardio alone has been a huge "lifetime fix" fail. The statistics don't lie.