second cycle...basic test e cycle

[tomli777]

so a little background. i took my first ever cycle earlier this year when I started my cut. basic test e cycle with arimidex and pct with both clomid and nolvadex. bought from naps, used geneza. starting weight was around 177-178 and my weight hit around 182-183 even with a caloric maintenance and deficit. strength through the roof. however, i have a strong suspicion their pct was bunk as my strength, weight dropped pretty much overnight and I had all the sides, from acne to low test/sex drive. that, combined with their recent security issues and incredibly slow shipping, made me look in other directions.

after researching UGL sources, it seems like pharmacomstore takes the take so I went with them on another basic test e cycle, coupled with their arimidex and clomid. Vladimir was very responsive to e-mails and shipping was only about two weeks or less.

This will be my 10 week cycle
W 1-10 Test Enth 300mg 2x week (up from 250mg my first cycle)
W 1-12 Adex 0.5mg EOD (0.25mg EOD in last week)
W 13 Clomid 50mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Clomid 25mg/d

Looking forward to logging my results for the first time.

 

[Skull]

Why guys would cycle anything less than 500-600mgwk for their cherry cycle is beyond me smh. If I coulda took it back, my 2nd cycle would have been another straight test run but @750mg. To each his own though. Good luck on your 2nd beginner cycle that should have been your first one for that milligram range lol.....

 

[monkeymelon]

Why guys would cycle anything less than 500-600mgwk for their cherry cycle is beyond me smh. If I coulda took it back, my 2nd cycle would have been another straight test run but @750mg. To each his own though. Good luck on your 2nd beginner cycle that should have been your first one for that milligram range lol.....

fuck it throw in some abombs and tren while youre at it...

 

[Colt44]

fuck it throw in some abombs and tren while youre at it...

Might as well

 

[Skull]

fuck it throw in some abombs and tren while youre at it...

Might as well

Now were cookin with fire lol jk jk.....I do not recommend throwing in either jus so ya know op

 

[tomli777]

Why guys would cycle anything less than 500-600mgwk for their cherry cycle is beyond me smh. If I coulda took it back, my 2nd cycle would have been another straight test run but @750mg. To each his own though. Good luck on your 2nd beginner cycle that should have been your first one for that milligram range lol.....

I'm running test at 600 a week, my first cycle was 500

 

[Skull]

I'm running test at 600 a week, my first cycle was 500

Smfdh ya as i re read it dis morning i clearly sae that. Sorry bou that bro. My fault completely. Good luck on your cycle

 

[Juced]

I would go to 12 or 14 weeks min with the test IMO

 

[tomli777]

I would go to 12 or 14 weeks min with the test IMO

I had enough test and arimidex last cycle to keep going another couple weeks but I honestly did not see any progress after week 9 ish.

So tonight I just had my first pin for my second cycle. 300mg test e and 0.5mg arimidex from pharmacom. this was also the first time i was injecting myself so I was definitely a bit nervous. Drew, pin, aspirate, inject. At first I thought I was messing up because I literally felt nothing but I guess the test is that smooth. felt a little hot/feverish almost right after but have no idea why, maybe it's just in my head. my first cycle I was starting to see results after about 3 weeks so let's see how long it will take this time.

 

[Juced]

I had enough test and arimidex last cycle to keep going another couple weeks but I honestly did not see any progress after week 9 ish.

So tonight I just had my first pin for my second cycle. 300mg test e and 0.5mg arimidex from pharmacom. this was also the first time i was injecting myself so I was definitely a bit nervous. Drew, pin, aspirate, inject. At first I thought I was messing up because I literally felt nothing but I guess the test is that smooth. felt a little hot/feverish almost right after but have no idea why, maybe it's just in my head. my first cycle I was starting to see results after about 3 weeks so let's see how long it will take this time.

water retention could have leveled out by wk9 for the compounds you where using but i assure you you where still gaining if diet and training was on point. as some lose water or see a decline in lbs on scale they may think the compounds stopped working but i think best is around 14 wks for this type of cycle IMO.
how you felt right after pinning was likely due to anxiety and in head, i almost passed out my first time pinning no shit LOL.
yeah test should be fairly smooth for most. im using a 400mg/ml type at the moment and the pip there is almost unnoticeable. though some have more issues than others.

 

[tomli777]

water retention could have leveled out by wk9 for the compounds you where using but i assure you you where still gaining if diet and training was on point. as some lose water or see a decline in lbs on scale they may think the compounds stopped working but i think best is around 14 wks for this type of cycle IMO.
how you felt right after pinning was likely due to anxiety and in head, i almost passed out my first time pinning no shit LOL.
yeah test should be fairly smooth for most. im using a 400mg/ml type at the moment and the pip there is almost unnoticeable. though some have more issues than others.

Hm interesting. And you noticed strength gains through week 14 too?

Yeah no PIP after first pin (I encountered it once during my first cycle...probably did not pin deep enough so I ended up walking with a limp for over a week). I also used to make the mistake of tensing up before pinning which I learned is definitely the complete opposite of what to do. Second pin tomorrow night, looking forward to it.

 

[Juced]

yeah never tense up, sit or stand in a way where the muscle is relaxed, even for delt shots i rest my elbow on the table so its not tense.
yes i noticed strengh going up all the way through, ofcourse less so than what you notice early on but thats to be expected... or we would all be benching 700lb after a few cycles lol.
i find the gains stay with longer cycles, though there is a balance to find, like if you went with a 24 week cycle the shutdown would be greater and recovery harder and that could = less gains kept. so its a balance, for me 14-16wks is my main area of bulking with say test and deca or maste. I am on hrt but still dont push it too long. now with the primo im on ill be going closer to 18 weeks and with LOW test dose. the compound also dictates best amount of time IMO. deca no less than 12-14 weeks IMO, mast about the same, test is debatable but id stay under 16wks if not on hrt (even if rest of bloods are fine) due to possible harder recovery etc.

ohh and you will likely have a bad pin here and there thats sore for a week, it happens, even when deep. every 10 or so pins ill get a rough one, part of the game.

 

[tomli777]

week 2 started yesterday with my third pin. definitely always aspirate, noticed a drop of blood when i did and there was a small stream of blood as i pulled out. otherwise went smoothly, gear is extremely smooth and no PIP. noticing some more acne and also a bit more moody.

 

[tomli777]

finished week 2 tonight. noticing some changes in terms of sex drive and a bit more mood change as well. acne is still there unfortunately, thinking about upping the arimidex and seeing if that will help. weight is creeping up a bit despite being in caloric deficit, but feeling bloated so definitely retaining some water. hopefully strength gains come this week!

 

[tomli777]

finished week 3 tonight...weight steadily going up, but still mostly water as it fluctuates quite a bit. have not seen really any strength gains yet but this was around when they started coming my first cycle.
any suggestions on acne help? I've tried a lot of OTC, even mud masks. not looking to use accutane or anything that severe.

 

[tomli777]

so I stopped making regular updates because...well, they were the same. i ended up cutting my cycle way short to 4 weeks (this cycle for some reason made me extremely moody and I didn't want it affecting my job or social relationships). I ended up gaining around 4 lbs, while in a deficit, and I did some solid gains in my lifts. PCT (2 weeks) went much better than my first cycle and I seem to have kept at least some of my progress. Overall, despite being a really short cycle, I am a lot more satisfied with it than my first ten week cycle. Will likely keep going with pharmacomstore due to their quick responses/shipping and the quality of the gear.

 

[MoneyShot]

Why guys would cycle anything less than 500-600mgwk for their cherry cycle is beyond me smh. If I coulda took it back, my 2nd cycle would have been another straight test run but @750mg. To each his own though. Good luck on your 2nd beginner cycle that should have been your first one for that milligram range lol.....

I've wondered about this for my second cycle...increasing and going straight test (why fix something that isn't broke right?) or same amount of test but adding in dbol

600mg/wk is my first...and current. I am keeping a log on here (shameless plug)