Kratom

[RodgerThat]

for those that haven't heard of it it's now an illegal drug in the states effective well today actually sept 30th 2016. But in the great white north totally legal. It's great for relaxing and helps me sleep. I've been on tons of insomnia meds and most pain killers don't work for me except percocets and I'm done with those so I needed something else. I can't do any drugs that are testable so that puts weed out of the question right there, kratom was the only thing that I could find that isn't tested for on regular tests and even if you do test for it it's got a 3 day detection period. Some use it for opiate withdrawal I'm using it for pain from a car crash I was in recently so I can still function at work and the gym until my competition then after that I'll be going to the doc to figure out what's wrong. Basically I've been upping my dose from 2g to 4g to 6g and now yesterday 8g which is were I will stay. I've not taken it two days in a row as to not have a dependency on it but on workout days I take 2g 30mins before my workout to take the sharp pain away then 6g after to help me relax and fall asleep. It's pretty cool stuff althought there are no long term studies on it which is a bit concerning but for short term it's got no sides to be concerned about. It makes me relax and feel good without making me act like a retard high on something, I don't feel comfortable with driving after I've taken it though cause you go from being stimulated with the lesser dose and time then about 2 hours after taking it it's lights out with higher doses.


Anybody else use the stuff? Anybody got any strain reccomendations I'm using a green malay strain right now

 

[movingiron88]

From what I have read today, the ban got pushed back. I really like the stuff. I can't really notice the difference of effects from the different strains. But I do like the white and greens the most. Maybe most potent, I don't know. Who do you get yours from?

 

[Geterdun]

Bro, I commend you on ditching the Percs, that bad news as you already seem to know. I to have been in a serious car wreck, way back in 1994. Still get surgeries, but getting better with the added muscle and strength. Can't say I've ever tried Kratom, but can it be worse than Percs, or Norco?

 

[mudbutt22]

I do. Been using it a couple of years. It really is bullshit that they scheduled it. Pharmaceutical companies caught wind that it actually works so they shut it down.

I Knew it was coming. I mean come on, a product that works for pain anxiety and insomnia with no significant side effects? Of course they were going to ban it.

Green Maeng da and Bali area two favorite strains. Mixing green and red is nice to.

 

[mudbutt22]

From what I have read today, the ban got pushed back. I really like the stuff. I can't really notice the difference of effects from the different strains. But I do like the white and greens the most. Maybe most potent, I don't know. Who do you get yours from?

That's good to know it got pushed back. I meant to check on it today but I forgot. Have any vendors started selling again?

 

[RodgerThat]

Bro, I commend you on ditching the Percs, that bad news as you already seem to know. I to have been in a serious car wreck, way back in 1994. Still get surgeries, but getting better with the added muscle and strength. Can't say I've ever tried Kratom, but can it be worse than Percs, or Norco?

It's significantly better pain relief then percs without the high which I really like. Doesn't seem to matter the dose for me I don't feel high just good. At low dose 2-4g I feel more energy and my body isn't in sharp pain and at 6-8g I get sleepy and calm and my body has no dull aches either. I like it a lot which is good and bad cause I want to use it daily but I can't use anything daily. Percs i had a renual script and after 2 months I was popping them like house did vikadin and it was a bad thing but I caught myself one day going to take 2 pills out of habit and I thought "fuck I'm not in significant pain right now what the hell am I doing" so I tolieted them and called the pharmacy to cancel my renewals a so I wouldn't have access to more if I had any withdrawals...

 

[penche]

I recently heard of Kratom. How do you use it though? Smoke it or put it in tea?

My elbow tendinitis aches at night, I have used tramadol to subside the pain. I try to battle it and not use anything nor Motrin majority of the time.

 

[Geterdun]

Anyone ever tried Alflutop? Could have spelled it wrong, but a Pharmacist here sells it and a well respected member used it during a cycle for his shoulder, or knee. Seemed to be a good review if I remember. I think it helps with joint pain. Thinking of trying it next cycle.

 

[RodgerThat]

I just mix mine with a protien shake or down it straight like someone hardcore taking preworkout. It is bitter as shit and tastes like shitty green tea but mixed with chocolate milk or chocolate protien powder you can't taste it.

 

[Ozzy619]

After reading this post I went to a local head shop and bought a Maeng Da variety from American Kratom. It was a bag of capsules, 30grams. I took 15 capsules. Maybe around 7 grams.

I noticed it did give me some energy, a little mood enhancement and a little more talkative. I would compare the the feeling to around 30mg of Codeine. I would use it to help me relax on hard labor days.

Overall not really impressed and not sure why they would ban this stuff. Maybe my shit was bunk but defiantly not what I was expecting. Any website or strain recommendations?

 

[MindlessWork]

That's good to know it got pushed back. I meant to check on it today but I forgot. Have any vendors started selling again?

I am sure there are some vendors who are now taking orders. However we are not sure how long the review will take...it could take just mere weeks or a few months so we need to do more to keep the Feds from banning it entirely. This is a slippery slope as more natural supps will get the banhammer should they become just as successful as kratom.

Anyone ever tried Alflutop? Could have spelled it wrong, but a Pharmacist here sells it and a well respected member used it during a cycle for his shoulder, or knee. Seemed to be a good review if I remember. I think it helps with joint pain. Thinking of trying it next cycle.

I should look into that too considering my knee and shoulder issues...as a last resort to cortisone shots and/or surgery.

 

[Big_paul]

for those that haven't heard of it it's now an illegal drug in the states effective well today actually sept 30th 2016. But in the great white north totally legal. It's great for relaxing and helps me sleep. I've been on tons of insomnia meds and most pain killers don't work for me except percocets and I'm done with those so I needed something else. I can't do any drugs that are testable so that puts weed out of the question right there, kratom was the only thing that I could find that isn't tested for on regular tests and even if you do test for it it's got a 3 day detection period. Some use it for opiate withdrawal I'm using it for pain from a car crash I was in recently so I can still function at work and the gym until my competition then after that I'll be going to the doc to figure out what's wrong. Basically I've been upping my dose from 2g to 4g to 6g and now yesterday 8g which is were I will stay. I've not taken it two days in a row as to not have a dependency on it but on workout days I take 2g 30mins before my workout to take the sharp pain away then 6g after to help me relax and fall asleep. It's pretty cool stuff althought there are no long term studies on it which is a bit concerning but for short term it's got no sides to be concerned about. It makes me relax and feel good without making me act like a retard high on something, I don't feel comfortable with driving after I've taken it though cause you go from being stimulated with the lesser dose and time then about 2 hours after taking it it's lights out with higher doses.


Anybody else use the stuff? Anybody got any strain reccomendations I'm using a green malay strain right now

It makes about as much sense as creating criminals out of those who enjoy ganja. The for profit prison system needs warm bodies, and America will give them those warm bodies.

Americans are a fucking joke in the civilized world. We pay for every thing, and continue to elect leaders who have only corporate America in mind. We will not be great much longer with such a simple people who refuse to educate themselves, so they can control their own destiny.

 

[ranger.danger]

Well unfortunately I started looking into kratom as I'm considering stopping weed obviously not the best timing... are there still sources delivering to the us?

 

[Ozzy619]

Well unfortunately I started looking into kratom as I'm considering stopping weed obviously not the best timing... are there still sources delivering to the us?

It can still be found at certain head shops. My buddy went a couple days ago and they had a huge selection. I don't believe the ban has take place everywhere yet so I'm sure it will still ship. And sure it will still ship after the ban too.

 

[ranger.danger]

It can still be found at certain head shops. My buddy went a couple days ago and they had a huge selection. I don't believe the ban has take place everywhere yet so I'm sure it will still ship. And sure it will still ship after the ban too.

Oh OK I tried that mmm place but it doesn't look like they are taking orders any other good online sources?

 

[DedLift]

I kicked a 10 year opiate habit using kratom. First heroin, then suboxone. I tired of the suboxone making me feel...nothing...I was an emotional zombie on it. The only emotion I ever showed was anger and it was constant. Kratom made withdrawal from subs so much easier. I take it a few times a week now so as not to develop another uncontrollable habit but it can be a godsend to those who are tired of the Opoid rollercoaster.

The DEA has long been known to be in bed with pharmaceutical companies and guess who wants that niche in the market kratom illegality would create? People are using kratom for pain relief, withdrawal, sleep, instead of taking Vicodin, perks, anxiety meds and the pharmaceutical giants realize they are losing money. Period. If it helps people and it's not medication prescribed by your doctor, it's bad and made illegal says big brother.

Hopefully those who spoke out like myself won't be denied our voice but I believe the decision has only been delayed a bit, not overturned. This government is a fucking joke.

 

[RodgerThat]

So fun story, made a 10g kratom protien shake last night plopped it in the fridge for after my workout as the pain was quite a lot, forgot about it. Anyways my girlfriend who is against every drug and alcohol drank it this morning after her run thinking she was being cheeky while I was in the gym shed snag it. Well she's semi fucked right now 10g of this stuff to someone that's never done drugs or drank and weighs 110lb is way way to much just incase anyone needed dosing help. Also pretty sure I'm in big trouble

 

[Les]

DEA Delays ‘Unprecedented’ Ban On Kratom Amid Popular Protest & Government Pushback
DEA Delays ‘Unprecedented’ Ban On Kratom Amid Popular Protest & Government Pushback

 

[Cajun897]

Kratom is nice but it can be quite habit forming after awhile

 

[Les]

I occasionally get where my back locks up to the point I'm walking hunched over and gritting my teeth. Maengda and ibuprofen and it's definitely manageable. I also take it recreationally sometimes I like green Malay when working and Maengda when I'm not.