The reason I haven't decided to run HGH is simply because I feel that's a bigger leap than what I'm ready for. I haven't studied the substance enough, I don't know enough about it, and I'm not 110% comfortable. Of course, to yield the best results slin should be ran with hgh and igf but.. just wasn't an option for me. I know and have read and seen it for my own eyes- slin alone still does some glorious things With a nice protocol.
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Walah. Another morning.1/4 gallon of water down.
Coffee.
Shake: 2 eggs, 1 egg white
2 cinnamon rolls
4 pieces French toast
6 turkey sausage links
1020 calories - p/c/f - 58-112-37
Sugars in this meal was about 36g - too high for my liking but I figured what the hell..
Today is chest and shoulders ladies and gents.
Tell me, am I shoulder pressing heavy, or bench pressing heavy?
You SOB....Why choose??
* note : this isn't part of the routine I will follow once this offseason kicks in full gear. This is simply things I put together.
Let's do an outline. Follow if you wish.
10minute warmup supersets of choice
Incline DB press: (high incline-slow and explosive, 1sec. Squeeze at top)
2x15(light) 5x8(last 2 sets very hard)
Incline DB flyes: (high incline-long stretch at bottom-explosive to the top)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
DB shoulder press: (slow and explosive)
2x15(light) 4x8-10(last 2 sets very hard)
Cable flyes: (hard stretch and contraction)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
DB bent side raises: (slightly forward torso)
4x8-12 (slow and controlled)
Superset1: BB landmine press 4x12-15
Superset1: Machine lateral raises 4x12-15
Superset2: Cable chest press 5x8-10
Superset2: BB military press 135lb x AMRAP
*stretch chest/shoulder 10 seconds between sets
*stretch chest/shoulders 5 minutes at end
Join me and post numbers.
Glad to see you thinking for yourself TNE .
Thats rare around here (alot of followers...
)...and your natural GH levels should still be very high at your age, obviously or you couldnt have built what you did.
I'll always have my health in mind, and I'll never take steps in a direction I don't see fit. I'm young, yes, but I'm not ridiculous about what I'm doing. Yes, you may disagree with the dosages and protocol being used this year for me, but keep in mind, I too know where to draw the line. My line just might be further down the road than some others would agree with. BUT, at least there is a line.Glad to see you thinking for yourself TNE .
Thats rare around here (alot of followers...
...and your natural GH levels should still be very high at your age, obviously or you couldnt have built what you did.
Guess not...
The "line" is ENTIRELY up to you. No one else should influence that, only your personal education and risk vs. reward scale.... I understand your desire to achieve great things, and the "risk" acceptance involved. Some do not, and this is okay. You don't do it for them, anyway.
Oh don't worry. I'm just here doing my little thing informing some people every now and then with updates. Not a word from someone could stop me, I know what's at risk. But in my mind what I'm doing is providing all the materials necessary to build what I want, so..that's what I'm going to do. Jump on, hop off, call me an idiotic kid, I guess this is the jackass in me speaking. But it's my decision that effects my life not yours.. and I'm not trying to be subpar at best.
Some people are VERY concerned about what we do with our own bodies, it seems. It's not like either one of us has EVER condoned this behavior.... I have clearly stated countless times that I don't recommend emulating.... If you look at all of my advice to ALLLLLL the noobies here, it's always the same basic cycles.... I don't give outrageous advice.
Agreed, strange that you mention that. As I see all my post when they're aimed towards helping them..it's always sound and practical advice.. All my protocols I've listed, handed out, the dieting help I've given, the training regimens, and just sharing what I know... Then for someone to come in here and act like I'm being ridiculous with the things I'll be pursuing in my very own life...
Then again, criticizing my knowledge that I've truly shown, missing the times I spend probably two hours a day reading books and actual studies to further increase my intelligence on the "sport" as a whole.. Better yet, telling me I'm completely out of line when in fact if they know me so well they should know I honestly slightly barley give a shift if any at all. When I set my mind to something, it's set.
I hope that clears up things. My rants over.
On a real note- I just ate this fucking chicken breast to realize it's pink and wouldn't tear. Oops, back in the oven.
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That is the worst feeling in the world when you bite into a piece of raw chicken and think "so...this is how it ends"
Okay. Today's workout.
Chest/shoulders
DB high incline - 2x15/5x6-8 (slow/controlled)
30x15 30x15 - 60x8 60x8 80x8 80x8 105x8
High DB incline flyes - top rotate pinkies in
15x25 - 30x12 30x12 35x12 35x10
DB shoulder Press - (slow/controlled) 2x15/5x8
35x15x2 - 70x8 70x8 105x4 90x8
Cable flyes - (stretch/contract) 1x25 4x10-12
15x25 45x12 45x10 45x10 45x6
DB side raises - (slow and controlled)
15x10 20x8 20x8 20x6
That's all I got to today guys.. but damn trust me I made the most of it! Pump and contractions were near perfect, excellent day to be chasing the dream. Hope everyone has a great evening. Off to work.
- TNE
Chest/shoulders
DB high incline - 2x15/5x6-8 (slow/controlled)
30x15 30x15 - 60x8 60x8 80x8 80x8 105x8
High DB incline flyes - top rotate pinkies in
15x25 - 30x12 30x12 35x12 35x10
DB shoulder Press - (slow/controlled) 2x15/5x8
35x15x2 - 70x8 70x8 105x4 90x8
Cable flyes - (stretch/contract) 1x25 4x10-12
15x25 45x12 45x10 45x10 45x6
DB side raises - (slow and controlled)
15x10 20x8 20x8 20x6
That's all I got to today guys.. but damn trust me I made the most of it! Pump and contractions were near perfect, excellent day to be chasing the dream. Hope everyone has a great evening. Off to work.
- TNE
Per TNE request, followed this routine tonight. Training session was sponsored by test base and Gatorade. 
Incline DB press: (high incline-slow and explosive, 1sec. Squeeze at top)
2x15(light) 5x8(last 2 sets very hard)
65x12 / 100x10 / 110x10 / 110x8 / 120x8
Incline DB flyes: (high incline-long stretch at bottom-explosive to the top)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
50x12 / 60x12 / 60x10 / 60x8
DB shoulder press: (slow and explosive)
2x15(light) 4x8-10(last 2 sets very hard)
75x10 / 85x10 / 95x7 < increased too quick, bad grip on handle / 90x8
Cable flyes: (hard stretch and contraction)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
These were seated cable flyes
80x12 / 80x10 / 80x8 / 80x8
DB bent side raises: (slightly forward torso)
4x8-12 (slow and controlled)
30x10 / 30x8 / 25x8 / 25x8
Thinking fuck you TNE...
Superset1: BB landmine press 4x12-15
Superset1: Machine lateral raises 4x12-15
45x12 landmines / 90x10 machine laterals
Superset2: Cable chest press 5x8-10
Superset2: BB military press 135lb x AMRAP
Subbed machine chest press
BB military press @ 135lbs x 12, 12, 10, 9
Chest press @ 210lbs x 10, 10, 8, 8
Went into this session on an empty stomach which I never fucking do but had a wacky afternoon... Needless to say, I'm going to go eat until I'm sick. Fun time TNE. I'll give you a back and bis session to pay you back.
Incline DB press: (high incline-slow and explosive, 1sec. Squeeze at top)
2x15(light) 5x8(last 2 sets very hard)
65x12 / 100x10 / 110x10 / 110x8 / 120x8
Incline DB flyes: (high incline-long stretch at bottom-explosive to the top)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
50x12 / 60x12 / 60x10 / 60x8
DB shoulder press: (slow and explosive)
2x15(light) 4x8-10(last 2 sets very hard)
75x10 / 85x10 / 95x7 < increased too quick, bad grip on handle / 90x8
Cable flyes: (hard stretch and contraction)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
These were seated cable flyes
80x12 / 80x10 / 80x8 / 80x8
DB bent side raises: (slightly forward torso)
4x8-12 (slow and controlled)
30x10 / 30x8 / 25x8 / 25x8
Thinking fuck you TNE...
Superset1: BB landmine press 4x12-15
Superset1: Machine lateral raises 4x12-15
45x12 landmines / 90x10 machine laterals
Superset2: Cable chest press 5x8-10
Superset2: BB military press 135lb x AMRAP
Subbed machine chest press
BB military press @ 135lbs x 12, 12, 10, 9
Chest press @ 210lbs x 10, 10, 8, 8
Went into this session on an empty stomach which I never fucking do but had a wacky afternoon... Needless to say, I'm going to go eat until I'm sick. Fun time TNE. I'll give you a back and bis session to pay you back.
I've got back tomorrow. Let's hear it.Per TNE request, followed this routine tonight. Training session was sponsored by test base and Gatorade.
Incline DB press: (high incline-slow and explosive, 1sec. Squeeze at top)
2x15(light) 5x8(last 2 sets very hard)
65x12 / 100x10 / 110x10 / 110x8 / 120x8
Incline DB flyes: (high incline-long stretch at bottom-explosive to the top)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
50x12 / 60x12 / 60x10 / 60x8
DB shoulder press: (slow and explosive)
2x15(light) 4x8-10(last 2 sets very hard)
75x10 / 85x10 / 95x7 < increased too quick, bad grip on handle / 90x8
Cable flyes: (hard stretch and contraction)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
These were seated cable flyes
80x12 / 80x10 / 80x8 / 80x8
DB bent side raises: (slightly forward torso)
4x8-12 (slow and controlled)
30x10 / 30x8 / 25x8 / 25x8
Thinking fuck you TNE...
Superset1: BB landmine press 4x12-15
Superset1: Machine lateral raises 4x12-15
45x12 landmines / 90x10 machine laterals
Superset2: Cable chest press 5x8-10
Superset2: BB military press 135lb x AMRAP
Subbed machine chest press
BB military press @ 135lbs x 12, 12, 10, 9
Chest press @ 210lbs x 10, 10, 8, 8
Went into this session on an empty stomach which I never fucking do but had a wacky afternoon... Needless to say, I'm going to go eat until I'm sick. Fun time TNE. I'll give you a back and bis session to pay you back.
Overall thought of the workout? Jealous of your strength fucker. Lol, I never press chest and shoulders on same day. Man I went into my shoulder presses and was quickly humbled... 105x10 quickly turned to 105x4 !
Per TNE request, followed this routine tonight. Training session was sponsored by test base and Gatorade.
Incline DB press: (high incline-slow and explosive, 1sec. Squeeze at top)
2x15(light) 5x8(last 2 sets very hard)
65x12 / 100x10 / 110x10 / 110x8 / 120x8
Incline DB flyes: (high incline-long stretch at bottom-explosive to the top)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
50x12 / 60x12 / 60x10 / 60x8
DB shoulder press: (slow and explosive)
2x15(light) 4x8-10(last 2 sets very hard)
75x10 / 85x10 / 95x7 < increased too quick, bad grip on handle / 90x8
Cable flyes: (hard stretch and contraction)
1x25(light) 4x10-12(last 2 sets very hard)
These were seated cable flyes
80x12 / 80x10 / 80x8 / 80x8
DB bent side raises: (slightly forward torso)
4x8-12 (slow and controlled)
30x10 / 30x8 / 25x8 / 25x8
Thinking fuck you TNE...
Superset1: BB landmine press 4x12-15
Superset1: Machine lateral raises 4x12-15
45x12 landmines / 90x10 machine laterals
Superset2: Cable chest press 5x8-10
Superset2: BB military press 135lb x AMRAP
Subbed machine chest press
BB military press @ 135lbs x 12, 12, 10, 9
Chest press @ 210lbs x 10, 10, 8, 8
Went into this session on an empty stomach which I never fucking do but had a wacky afternoon... Needless to say, I'm going to go eat until I'm sick. Fun time TNE. I'll give you a back and bis session to pay you back.
I was just thinking to myself that I hope you bastards had a hefty meal before this cause you'll definitely be feeling it when you get to the super sets. Man I bet you were drained.
Shoulders after heavy chest had always been humbling experience for me! My strength drop dramatically. It's often made me wonder if I'm using too much delt in my chest presses.
Haha, nutrition is a must.
I don't think you're using too much delts during chest movements unless it's easily noticeably shown to you. There's of course techniques to limit shoulder use and maximize chest use. The shoulders get worked regardless, the same as bis with back and lower back with legs ect
Getting the dumbbells up is the hardest part! I can swing them up until around 85-90 then have to use knees to assist. I was honestly exhausted by the end... I was kicking myself at the start for not going in well fed... My stomach was upset from being empty. Gatorade sugar eventually helped some. I'll full now.
Here's a workout I do on Fridays sometimes. You can subb rack pulls instead of deadlifts if you want, I sometimes do.
Deads
1 or 2 warm-up sets.
3 x 5 @ 70%, 80%, 85% final set is AMRAP but keep strict form, don't go nuts.
Barbell Rows
3x8
I prefer Yates Rows to work the top more.
Lat Pulldowns
4x10
I pick up the pace with rest between sets at this point, speed things up a bit.
Wide grip cable rows
3x10-8
I pull up at the very end and flex traps. I go heavy and focus particularly on slowly straightening arms back out. You can sub this with supinating cable rows instead, uses individual handles and you twist as you pull.
Shrugs
4x12-8
I switch between machine and dumbbells, when doing machine I work up to five plates each side and then do drop sets by taking a plate off until there is only two left on each side. HOLD at the top. These need to be slow. Everyone I see speeds through these, don't.
Narrow grip pulldown
3x8-10
Dumbbell curls
4x10-8
Arnold says we must supinate.
Preacher curls
5x6-12
EZ curl or dumbbells or a mix of both. I prefer to go as low as 6 reps early on to encourage a deep pump then lighten it back up and work up as high as 12.
Incline dumbbell curls
5x10-8
Palms out whole time, you should get a deep stretch and hard contraction here. Keep elbows down, don't let tension go.
Rope Hammer Curls or dumbbell hammer curls
I do burner drop sets here, you can superset the next movement if you want. Should be quick, if session has lasted an hour a half I skip this or the next lift. Arms should be weak at this point.
Straight arm lat Pulldowns
I do a very quick sets, about 3.
I've gotten excellent results from this routine and come back to it often.
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