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Test e's melting point is around 90-96 F... So i can maybe see that being an argument, but i dont think you can use it as an excuse on the bloodwork
fit2beking
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The thing is that this would affect all UGL's the same. So this UGL can't claim that as an excuse or you would see this across the board of all UGL's. So let's not even throw this as an olive branch.
But what you just said is basically is saying all ugls live in the same place and order from the same supplier... And its not intended to be an olive branch... I just placed a decent sized order for tsl test e... I don't want to be seeing this shit... Im just trying to see where something may have went wrong and how he is going to handle it with a bunch of bloods coming back this low
T-Bagger
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There's another UGL that came back with super low Test in their peep's bloods and it was Test E also. Granted, it was 400 mg, but again - depending on when the raws were purchased, the heat could have ruined it.
And as far as where my order shipped from from TSL, it's highly likely temps could have affected it. The last UGL I bought from didn't give me the size I got from Cyp and it also came from a hot place.
Again, not making excuses, just an observation.
T-Bagger
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I also am fairly certain he doesn't mass spec, so he could have a bad batch of raws.
This is what i thought about the test e all along...it is part of the game. The problem is from the get go tsl has not even admitted that weak raws could be a possibility on this batch of test e. and like you stated he doesnt test raws.
Frankly his dbol and tren e rocked as far as my experience in nov and dec. is concerned. So.....?
After 3 weeks of waiting I finally get my package and now this shit. What a total buzzkill. Why the fuck can crackheads and dopeheads get some of the worst shit in the world to fuck themselves up on as easy as walking down the street yet I have to search for steroids like it's the holy fucking grail. I literally do nothing for myself except this. This is my vice in life and it's becoming more work than it's worth. Why the fuck does my hobby have to be so fucking difficult. Sorry for the ranting.
Your shit might be ok....mine was ordered in oct.
Surely by now the bathtubs been drained and refilled!
Become a tranny, the government gives them legal hormones
Inquiring Mind
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OP's Free test was in the high, wouldn't that suggest it's efficiency? I ask because a few pages back @Roger rabbit was explaining how if your Free is high than the Total would be lower because your body is utilizing it. Something along those lines...I don't articulate as well as some. LOL.
One this that hasn't been reconciled is that everyone that came back with questionable or lower than expected Total levels also had elevated Free levels, no one has said they emphatically did not see gains. I believe they all said they were satisfied with progress in they gym. I don't know...this shit is concerning.
If test tren mast deca and a couple other goodies are part of the transformation then maybe it's something to consider.
T-Bagger
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fit2beking
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No, what I am saying is that this excuse would have been used a ton by now! TSL isn't the first UGL that is located in a warm climate. If he is even located in a warm climate. I do not know where his operations are. Whether that is the case or not, I am with you 100% on how he is going to handle it. He should definitely make the shit right regardless of how the numbers got this low.
What I meant by olive branch is let TSL come up with his own excuses as to why it's low instead of throwing things out there. He may just latch on that as an excuse. Any excuse other than making it right is no bueno in my opinion.
Im kind of a noob when it comes to bloodwork... Maybe let me try asking this... (all hypothetical) say one is running test e 500 mg a week and scores 1500 tt.. But his free test was >50.... And when its all said and done the guy gains 10-15 lbs of lean mass at the end of the cycle... Should that guy be pissed at the numbers? Or is my scenario not possible... Or higher tt levels = the more you grow
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Imo... yeah be upset.
I dont know where the magic tt or free test numbers are. 2000/100 or 5000/160
Imo if you have low numbers comparative to an accepted baseline say 1500tt at 500mg/wk and the accepted baseline for tt at 500mg per week is 3000 tt then you have spent money on gear that is weak.
You could have spent that money better buying properly dosed gear and ran less of it to get that same low result in tt number that gave you good gain results....by running less ml you wouldnt have to spend money buying more gear cuz you would still have it left over from running less ml/wk of properly dosed gear.
Imo...
Roger rabbit
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It doesn't have to be that he is located in warm climate. Remember airplanes don't have ac, transport trucks don't have a/c if a product is being transferred from across the pond and rides in the back of a truck that is 120-140 degrees this could affect Raws.
Also, many labs do complain about test e being so inconsistent. If I were a lab this would be one ester I would make sure to always get mass spec on.
Believe it was @Eman who also mentioned issues with test e from various labs. But this is also why I eaither stick to cyp or prop.
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Roger rabbit
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That's what is going on, and I see this a lot.
Free test is high, total test is low. But they have great gains and some even say the best gains they ever seen. But complain about the total test number.
Your free test is where most your gains come from, it is not bound up and is able to be utilized.
I'm not defending tsl. period. I'm not stating a comment to @w1ck3d
Roger rabbit
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Would you be satisfied if the 500mg / week gave you 3,000 total test and 10 free test?
