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JK...:p Need experience/pointers on my 3rd cycle. First was just TestE. Second TestE/Dbol.

Week 1-4 : Dbol 30mg ED
Week 1-4 : TestE 500mg p/w
Week 1-8 : Deca 500mg p/w
Week 4-16: TestE 600mg p/w
Week 8-18: HCG 250iu EOD

PCT (Adex on hand)
Week 18: Clomid 150 first two days/50/50/50/50
Week 18: Nolva 40/40/40/40

Never used Nolva or HCG. Research shows I was a dumbass. Any pointers will help.
 
500 deca is kinda high for a first run with it, i'd say 400 max would be a better option imo.

People will argue over if you need caber, I'd say use it .25mg e3d to start, or at least have it on hand.

I think pct works better 3 weeks+ after last pin
 
Just my opinion,

1. I would keep the testosterone at the same dose throughout

2. I would run deca longer than 8 weeks, then stop it a couple weeks before the test.

3. I would lower the dose of deca on your first run. I thought about running it up to 600mg's my first time but was talked down to 300. I have no regrets about it whatsoever. The gains were still great.

4. If you stop test after 16 weeks, wait three weeks to start pct

5. I would start hcg earlier. Preferably you never want your testicles to atrophy and if you're kickstarting with dbol off the bat, you'll definitely shut yourself down pretty quick.
 
Just my opinion,

1. I would keep the testosterone at the same dose throughout

2. I would run deca longer than 8 weeks, then stop it a couple weeks before the test.

3. I would lower the dose of deca on your first run. I thought about running it up to 600mg's my first time but was talked down to 300. I have no regrets about it whatsoever. The gains were still great.

4. If you stop test after 16 weeks, wait three weeks to start pct

5. I would start hcg earlier. Preferably you never want your testicles to atrophy and if you're kickstarting with dbol off the bat, you'll definitely shut yourself down pretty quick.
Okay I will drop the deca to 300 and run it to week 14. And start HCG immediately after the dbol. And keep the test level throughout.
 
@eje1990, I think you should incorporate estrogen shots into your cycle. This would make up for you creating such a disappointing thread title........geez..... :confused:
 

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