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[Sk8man101]

Just my opinion,

1. I would keep the testosterone at the same dose throughout

2. I would run deca longer than 8 weeks, then stop it a couple weeks before the test.

3. I would lower the dose of deca on your first run. I thought about running it up to 600mg's my first time but was talked down to 300. I have no regrets about it whatsoever. The gains were still great.

4. If you stop test after 16 weeks, wait three weeks to start pct

5. I would start hcg earlier. Preferably you never want your testicles to atrophy and if you're kickstarting with dbol off the bat, you'll definitely shut yourself down pretty quick.

This is great advice right here op^

Edit: I will say your Hcg layout is more subjective though. I think the best way is to run it the whole way but a blast twords the end can still get the job done.

 

[legendary]

8 weeks of deca is a waste. Maybe drop it all together and save it for next cycle without dbol. If you haven't ran it before I would not run it for a first time with dbol or hcg as both effect e2. I personally don't use hcg.

 

[ickyrica]

@CdnGuy see that candy wrapper stuck in that girls fold? Serious push press to get a stuck remote out!!

 

[TorroXL]

500 deca is kinda high for a first run with it, i'd say 400 max would be a better option imo.

People will argue over if you need caber, I'd say use it .25mg e3d to start, or at least have it on hand.

I think pct works better 3 weeks+ after last pin

Not bad advice. I ran 600 my first and I shut down bad. Got big and strong AF tho! Don't think I'll recover from that 20 weeks I did. Waited like 4 months and nothing. I fucked up and tried to kick start my natty TT with no meds at all. I been on cruise for a while now. I felt like shit.