Removing water from unfiltered brew

[ickyrica]

Situation:

Batch of test prop was brewed up and I just got a chance to take a look at it. I pulled it off the mixer and let the bubbles settle down. Well, I can still see a few bubbles on the bottom of the beaker and it's obvious they are something other than oil or air. I'm guessing water got in the mix somehow.

Now, it's settled to the bottom which is expected. Is my best bet for dealing with it going to be pitching the very bottom of the oil? Maybe try to isolate the water with a syringe and try to manually extract it drop by drop?

I haven't filtered yet, don't know if that will matter. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!

 

[Docd187123]

How did water get in your brew?

 

[Ripped]

Situation:

Batch of test prop was brewed up and I just got a chance to take a look at it. I pulled it off the mixer and let the bubbles settle down. Well, I can still see a few bubbles on the bottom of the beaker and it's obvious they are something other than oil or air. I'm guessing water got in the mix somehow.

Now, it's settled to the bottom which is expected. Is my best bet for dealing with it going to be pitching the very bottom of the oil? Maybe try to isolate the water with a syringe and try to manually extract it drop by drop?

I haven't filtered yet, don't know if that will matter. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!

Freeze it remove the oil leave the frozen water.

 

[ickyrica]

How did water get in your brew?

Beyond me sir. I'm reviewing everything I did, can't seem to find when it happened. It's literally a drop or two. I counted five little bubbles. I stirred two of them to the surface and got them with a syringe. Three more..
In the pic you can see the two I removed. You can all see a couple more on the bottom of the beaker.

 

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Beyond me sir. I'm reviewing everything I did, can't seem to find when it happened. It's literally a drop or two. I counted five little bubbles. I stirred two of them to the surface and got them with a syringe. Three more..View attachment 73251
In the pic you can see the two I removed. You can all see a couple more on the bottom of the beaker.

You think the raws had moisture in them?

 

[Docd187123]

Did you use a hot water solution to heat the brew?

If not it must be bc the beaker you used wasn't completely dry or something contaminated the solution while you prepared it or while it was mixing.

You could try a hydrophobic filter. If it's that little water you could even just filter it as normal and pretend like it's not even there.

 

[ickyrica]

You think the raws had moisture in them?

No. It's my error I believe. All I can think is my beaker had a tiny bit of water on it. I'm not sure how that's possible because I would bet my bottom dollar the beaker was dry. I did use a new vial of BA. Maybe there? All supplies are from med lab so I feel it would be good.

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[Docd187123]

No. It's my error I believe. All I can think is my beaker had a tiny bit of water on it. I'm not sure how that's possible because I would bet my bottom dollar the beaker was dry. I did use a new vial of BA. Maybe there? All supplies are from med lab so I feel it would be good.

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Done.

 

[ickyrica]

Solution:

I let the water settle down to the bottom of the beaker. I poured the beaker into a media bottle at a slow rate. I stopped the pour as I saw the first bubble move close to the rim of the beaker. I estimate that I have 10 - 15 ml left over with bubbles in it.

I have been looking at the larger portion of oil and it looks as it should. Air bubbles floating around and dissipating as normal but not one water bubble. They are noticeably different so I am confident it's a good mix. I am ordering a hydrophobic filter or two today. Would love to try and filter the water out. Something I haven't done yet

 

[master.on]

Situation:

Batch of test prop was brewed up and I just got a chance to take a look at it. I pulled it off the mixer and let the bubbles settle down. Well, I can still see a few bubbles on the bottom of the beaker and it's obvious they are something other than oil or air. I'm guessing water got in the mix somehow.

Now, it's settled to the bottom which is expected. Is my best bet for dealing with it going to be pitching the very bottom of the oil? Maybe try to isolate the water with a syringe and try to manually extract it drop by drop?

I haven't filtered yet, don't know if that will matter. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!

1 pour brewed oil in a deep bottle.
2 Draw oil with a large syringe (its nozzle placed at the oil upper layer
3 stop drawing as you get near water
4 discard the bottom water+oil
this is the easy part

You think the raws had moisture in them?

These oils WILL hold too much moisture
The solubility of water in edible oils and fats

The best/easiest/safest way to dry them is

1 pour them in a wide area pan (i.e. a cake pyrex pan)
2 heat them in an OIL-bath (not a water-bath please read @XKawN homebrewing bible on water-baths making too much water vapor which makes oils damp) to allow water to evaporate.
3 Be aware that you don't NEED to get oil to water boiling point temperature 212F (100 C) in order to dry it. That's why you need a wide surface area pan to speed up drying.
Probably you don't even WANT to heat oil to water boiling point as some steroids (and maybe oil too) will begin to decompose.
It would be nice if @XKawN chimed in with more info on temperatures.
4 you may need to prefilter it in case it caught some airborne particles. A coffee filter may be good, or a 0.45um one before the final 0.22um one.

Options for Removing Water in Oil
nice ideas, but maybe only heating and bubbling nitrogen thru it can be cheaply done at home.

 

[ickyrica]

Just circled back and checked the oil. Crystal clear except for three pin sized water bubbles. I can't seem to identify anymore in it. I'll extract the final few bubbles as needed.

Not sure how much oil will be lost do to transferring and what not but it's a good learning curve. Never hurts to triple check what you have going on with all of your brewing equipment, even when you think it was confirmed good on the second check hit it up again. This wasn't a massive deal, just a time suck

 

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Just circled back and checked the oil. Crystal clear except for three pin sized water bubbles. I can't seem to identify anymore in it. I'll extract the final few bubbles as needed.

Not sure how much oil will be lost do to transferring and what not but it's a good learning curve. Never hurts to triple check what you have going on with all of your brewing equipment, even when you think it was confirmed good on the second check hit it up again. This wasn't a massive deal, just a time suck

I have done a different type of experiments if you know what I mean I guess alot of it could carry over to brewing aas.

 

[Homebrew Homeboy]

You could always use a q-tip for anything on top of the surface, and if it has settled to the bottom, pour your brew into another beaker until nothing is left but a small bit of oil and the water drops, then extract with a q-tip.

The miniscule bit of cotton fibers that might enter the brew in this manner will be filtered out anyhow, so no worries of contamination in your final finished product.

 

[TRT]

This happened to me a couple weeks ago. Forgot to get the corners of my beaker and there was a significant amount of water there (few big drops like OP). I sucked it out with an insulin pin after pouring most of the oil into a dry beaker. Water tension between the oil and water allowed all the water to be completely sucked up with the needle. Heated the mixture a little to evaporate any remaining moisture but it was good. Kept a close eye on it and came out great.

 

[XmadXscientist]

Why not just heat the beaker with the brew in it over 212? Water boils off and be done with it.