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Does said guinea pig need to let test levels return to baseline before starting this or can he just jump right into it? Lol. I like experiments.
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ChestRockwell
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Nope, the "good" thing about this is that once trenbolone is in the system, it will suppress endogenous testosterone production due to the feedbacks it exerts on the HPG axis.
I've read from lots of guys who run tren only cycles on boards focused more on bodybuilding. 100 - 200 mg is more of a common daily dose, though. Not weekly. I've also seen guys claiming that 100 - 150 mg a week is a "cruise" dose, but they take low dose test too.
This sounds like an interesting experiment. Too bad I can't handle tren sides. I would love to try that kind of dose with trest only.
Maybe I missed this. I apologize if I did. How long would this guinea pig be running tren by itself for? Tren a or tren e. I guess it would be up to the subject to choose. I'm all in to see this. I think I'd go bat shit with no test. But I do run tren pretty high.
that would sort
that would need to be done with tren E sort of. I would do tren A at 300 mg/week with no test. Would 300 mg be to much? Since I would pin 100 mg eod of tren a. I only have amps. I am also trying to get on TRT from a doc right now. So I am not pinning any test until I get on it. Since I need low T levels, on my bloods.
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Yeah, we don't want to get too far into supraphysiological dosing here (not that trenbolone is endogenous but you get what I mean).
We would need two tests conducted, a "control" where someone is running TRT only, for our baseline numbers. Then a second test performed 4-6 weeks after introducing a trenbolone-only stack at the same dose as the TRT. I would like to do a compare/contrast of some key metabolic markers that I can discuss further with those who would be willing to help me out.
Yes, I think this would still work as long as we keep the dosing equivalent (see above).
I wou
would 6 weeks be long enough. I haven't shot test in 3 weeks. I shot 400 mg of test 3 weeks ago and haven't since. I just got bloods done on tuesday. I should have called them today but forgot. I am calling on monday. So I should be pretty close to off test C. I am not PCTing obviously. I would take tren on monday after my test is back. And run a "TRT tren dose" Then when I get on TRT drop tren. Cause I would be finally on TRT.
But I would get bloods every 2 or 3 weeks? since they (endcronologist) are going to want low T numbers more then once, cause they never work fast, and efficient.
It just seems like perfect timing for me to try this. I am going to be off of everything anyway. I don't see why tren would effect me on getting my TRT prescribed.
What if its the other way around. the tren only first and then trT only. . since I am getting on TRT in lets say 6 weeks. I could run the tren at 200-300 mg a week until I get on TRT. then drop the tren and run TRT. Since I am going to need to get bloods done for a couple months by my doctors anyway. If I get on TRT sooner then that well I am not going to continue tren. Cause I want prescription TRT. But I can see the doctor scripting me TRT any faster then 6 weeks. They take forever.
would 6 weeks be long enough. I haven't shot test in 3 weeks. I shot 400 mg of test 3 weeks ago and haven't since. I just got bloods done on tuesday. I should have called them today but forgot. I am calling on monday. So I should be pretty close to off test C. I am not PCTing obviously. I would take tren on monday after my test is back. And run a "TRT tren dose" Then when I get on TRT drop tren. Cause I would be finally on TRT.
But I would get bloods every 2 or 3 weeks? since they (endcronologist) are going to want low T numbers more then once, cause they never work fast, and efficient.
It just seems like perfect timing for me to try this. I am going to be off of everything anyway. I don't see why tren would effect me on getting my TRT prescribed.
But would tren A e3d work? it would have to be eod maximum, probably right?
I have only tren A 100 amps. 1 amp=100 Mg/ML thats why 300 would be nice. But I don't think the doctor would give me 300 mg for a TRT dose.
I have only tren A 100 amps. 1 amp=100 Mg/ML thats why 300 would be nice. But I don't think the doctor would give me 300 mg for a TRT dose.
You can transfer 10 amps at a time to a sealed sterile vial and then use whatever dose you want. Slin pins make accurate dosing easy if you're doing less than 1 ml per injection.
yea this is true.
ChestRockwell
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Actually, this is not a bad idea and it could be beneficial to have some do trenbolone first to account for any unforeseen confounders with everyone performing the tests in the same order.
If anything, it may help because running trenbolone will shut down your endogenous testosterone and DHT production.
So what would it feel like? Tren with zero test in your system ?
I'm not sure what such an efndeavorbould attempt to accomplish, except perhaps "documenting" the cross reactivity bt TREN and TT ELISA assays.
I say only ELISA assays bc an LC/MS could readily disquinish bt TT and Tren since their MWs alone differ by roughly 10%.
And I suppose you could also ascertain to what extent Tren suppresses the HTPA, which
will likely be complete suppression at Tren dosages exceeding 100mg per week, if not sooner, IMO.?
Of course the reproducibility of such testing is dependent upon
KNOWING the product itself
is qualitatively and quantitatively consistent with what's on the label
Jim
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Impossible to say with certainty as it will differ from individual to individual.
Trying to build a database that will hopefully help ascertain how applicable results from animal studies are to humans. Will it be a compound controlled, double-blind, randomized trial? Well, of course not, however this will clearly be placed as a disclaimer in the article.
It's actually not bad. In fact I've felt really good on tren only cycles. Now the last one I ran was probably 5 years ago. I can tell you that about 3-4 weeks after my last pin, I felt like shit. Obviously with my test production being shit down hard, it was not good at that point. I usually went back on after the 6th off week. I didn't have any connections for test was the reason I ran tren alone. This was before my time on the boards like Meso.
1) and that's one of the primary reasons clinical trials are conducted, to diminish the impact of an INDIVIDUAL being an independent variable.
And in general the larger the trial the greater it's reproducibility among all comers.
2) that is contingent upon the compounds themselves, the
animal , and what specifically is
the focus of study.
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