cardio: gamechanger?

[macabremitch]

morning fellows, question for some of you guys. how often are you doing cardio? for how long ? i’m currently trying to bulk and add some size which i have been successful as well as increased weight i also have gained some size around my gut, probably a little more than i would like. i’m loving the strength gains from all these calories but i’m curious if adding a lot more cardio would give me more of a recomp.

i don’t mind a little fat it’s gonna happen in a surplus but just interested in some feedback so i’m not struggling in spring to drop the weight and cut.

5”6
177 lbs
calories 3100
400g carb
100g fat
150g protein

on trt 160mg a week (no real cycles yet)

 

[Docd187123]

If you continue to bulk then you'll continue to add fat as well. Cardio isn't some magic unicorn that eats fat, it simply burns more calories.

 

[mands]

As @Docd187123 stated it's almost inevitable you will gain fat.

Looking at your food intake I think you could minimize by adjusting your macros IMO?

mands

 

[colossus25]

As @Docd187123 stated it's almost inevitable you will gain fat.

Looking at your food intake I think you could minimize by adjusting your macros IMO?

mands

Yupp his protein intake seems way low and his carb intake unnecessarily high at his current bodyweight.

 

[Xlgx]

20-30mins fasted cardio in the mornings. 5 days

 

[ickyrica]

Nice avi, OP. Best part of Meso is the butts in the avitars. I can't get enough of them! Sound like Manwhore right now...

 

[macabremitch]

If you continue to bulk then you'll continue to add fat as well. Cardio isn't some magic unicorn that eats fat, it simply burns more calories.

haha just messing , no doubt fat will come along, i guess im just not blessed like some other guys my fat is all in my gut and back .

 

[macabremitch]

As @Docd187123 stated it's almost inevitable you will gain fat.

Looking at your food intake I think you could minimize by adjusting your macros IMO?

mands

what would you recommend? less carb more protein ?

 

[macabremitch]

Nice avi, OP. Best part of Meso is the butts in the avitars. I can't get enough of them! Sound like Manwhore right now...

butts are amazing, the forbidden fruit is even better

 

[macabremitch]

20-30mins fasted cardio in the mornings. 5 days

shit bro i’m lucky to get in an hour a week of cardio. why fasted ? i’ve never looked into doing anything faster , i wonder the benefits

 

[macabremitch]

Yupp his protein intake seems way low and his carb intake unnecessarily high at his current bodyweight.

i’ll experiment and adjust if you guys can recommend something ? maybe lower the carbs for a few weeks and see what happens , i’m always down for trying new shit. I JUST LOVE CARBS

 

[Xlgx]

shit bro i’m lucky to get in an hour a week of cardio. why fasted ? i’ve never looked into doing anything faster , i wonder the benefits

For better insulin sensitivity for one. And helps mobilize fats for energy. Moderate intensity around 130-140bpm.

 

[mands]

what would you recommend? less carb more protein ?

Yes sir! At the minimum 200. I would like it more around 220 if possible. Lower carbs around 330 or so.

mands

 

[ErikR]

If you continue to bulk then you'll continue to add fat as well. Cardio isn't some magic unicorn that eats fat, it simply burns more calories.

Doc, how much cardio is consided too much? I know it burns calories, but what about for overall health? A lot of guys don't do cardio because they feel it burns muscle as well.

 

[Docd187123]

Doc, how much cardio is consided too much? I know it burns calories, but what about for overall health? A lot of guys don't do cardio because they feel it burns muscle as well.

What's enough for me is probably different than others. The most cardio I get is HIIT sex, sets more than 8reps, and going up flights of stairs.

15-30min of light to moderate intensity cardio a couple times a week will provide the health benefits you seek.

 

[Docd187123]

what would you recommend? less carb more protein ?

Since you're bulking you don't really need very high protein. 175g or so will be plenty. Reduce fats a bit to around 60-70g and add in the protein and rest in carbs.

shit bro i’m lucky to get in an hour a week of cardio. why fasted ? i’ve never looked into doing anything faster , i wonder the benefits

Fasted cardio really isn't going to do anything for you unless you're already pretty lean and trying to cut. If
You're bulking there's no real reason to add it in.

 

[macabremitch]

Since you're bulking you don't really need very high protein. 175g or so will be plenty. Reduce fats a bit to around 60-70g and add in the protein and rest in carbs.



Fasted cardio really isn't going to do anything for you unless you're already pretty lean and trying to cut. If
You're bulking there's no real reason to add it in.

doing this will still keep me around 400 carbs, so really it’s the fats/protein that may be off ?

yeah might wanna hold off at the fasted cardio i’m definitely not lean lol.

 

[macabremitch]

Doc, how much cardio is consided too much? I know it burns calories, but what about for overall health? A lot of guys don't do cardio because they feel it burns muscle as well.

i do wonder this also, as i see a lot of guys really stress to get down a protein shake after lifting and before cardio. i would imagine if you eat well enough before training you’d have sufficient fuel?

 

[ErikR]

What's enough for me is probably different than others. The most cardio I get is HIIT sex, sets more than 8reps, and going up flights of stairs.

15-30min of light to moderate intensity cardio a couple times a week will provide the health benefits you seek.

Is there a point where too much cardio becomes detrimental to you health? Especially if someone is on cycle ? Heart wise?

 

[macabremitch]

thank you guys for the advice, i have switched up my macros according to your suggestions and my tdee.

375 carbs
65 fat
200 protein
2900kc

will take docs suggestion 15-30 mins cardio 3x a week. let’s see how it goes!