Wanna know WHY Texas is so badass?

[flenser]

If the original attempt at suicide fails, there is only a 10% chance or so that same person will try again.

So it's a social engineering thing? You don't think they have a right to choose their own fate?

 

[Docd187123]

So it's a social engineering thing? You don't think they have a right to choose their own fate?

are you responding to what I write or to what you want to think Im writing?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Rosie can suck masterbot's flaccid, herpes infested penis for all I care. Her views are about as relevant as horseshit during a squirrel orgy.

Well i feel better now. I wanted to root you out.
You passed.
Were good

 

[Docd187123]

Well i feel better now. I wanted to root you out.
You passed.
Were good

The true test of a friendship is how much each person hates Rosie lolol

 

[flenser]

are you responding to what I write or to what you want to think Im writing?

Er, you tell me. You seem to think the success rate of attempted suicide by gun is an argument for increased restrictions on gun ownership. I came to that conclusion when you posted gun death stats that included suicides and when I pointed that out you defended those stats with additional stats on the success rates of suicide attempts when guns were used. Am I missing something?

 

[Sp2.0]

Shooter once escaped from NM mental health facility

From the article

SANTA TERESA – Devin Patrick Kelley was a patient at a behavioral health hospital in Santa Teresa in 2012 after he was caught “sneaking firearms” onto Holloman Air Force Base, where he was “attempting to carry out death threats” against his military chain of command, according to an El Paso Police Department report.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Shooter once escaped from NM mental health facility

From the article

SANTA TERESA – Devin Patrick Kelley was a patient at a behavioral health hospital in Santa Teresa in 2012 after he was caught “sneaking firearms” onto Holloman Air Force Base, where he was “attempting to carry out death threats” against his military chain of command, according to an El Paso Police Department report.

Wow.
The USAF fucked up big time

 

[Docd187123]

Er, you tell me. You seem to think the success rate of attempted suicide by gun is an argument for increased restrictions on gun ownership. I came to that conclusion when you posted gun death stats that included suicides and when I pointed that out you defended those stats with additional stats on the success rates of suicide attempts when guns were used. Am I missing something?

You're missing the part where I said people can't choose their own fate bc I never said that

 

[Sp2.0]

Clearly the laws already on the books would've made it more difficult for this coward to pull this off if the system held up its end.

 

[flenser]

Er, you tell me. You seem to think the success rate of attempted suicide by gun is an argument for increased restrictions on gun ownership. I came to that conclusion when you posted gun death stats that included suicides and when I pointed that out you defended those stats with additional stats on the success rates of suicide attempts when guns were used. Am I missing something?

You're missing the part where I said people can't choose their own fate bc I never said that

It is a logical deduction based on you promoting forced gun restrictions in order to (among other things) reduce successful suicides. If you use force to deny people the means to reliably kill themselves, you are limiting their ability to choose their own fates. It's different from steroid prohibition only by degree.

 

[Burrr]

ok, going by the numbers. are we counting this " 26 dead and bad guy killed by armed citizen" as a success story?

 

[HIGHRISK]

ok, going by the numbers. are we counting this " 26 dead and bad guy killed by armed citizen" as a success story?

We're calling it a tragedy with damage control by an armed citizen.

 

[Burrr]

i think every church now needs armed ushers.
better put a few more bucks in the collection basket.

We're calling it a tragedy with damage control by an armed citizen.

 

[HIGHRISK]

i think every church now needs armed ushers.
better put a few more bucks in the collection basket.

Maybe also schools,malls,colleges,theme parks,movie theaters, out door concerts. Hell just everyone stay home board up your and houses and only come out at day break for 1 HR! Wrap your kids and wife in bubble wrap and sit on the roof with your AR.

 

[Sp2.0]

I see no reason why parishioners with valid CCW wouldn't be carrying during service. This incident showed the coward did what cowards do when confronted. If someone had engaged him with a firearm in the church his yellow streak would've been exposed sooner.

 

[miketee]

The problem with that is if the church is a safe zone or has a school, firearms are not allowed by law. I doubt in this instance that was the case, but I’m sure many patrons carry weapons across the US. In a small town like that people probably leave their doors unlocked. This just goes to show madmen can strike anywhere at anytime.

 

[Super Charge]

What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer

 

[Docd187123]

It is a logical deduction based on you promoting forced gun restrictions in order to (among other things) reduce successful suicides. If you use force to deny people the means to reliably kill themselves, you are limiting their ability to choose their own fates. It's different from steroid prohibition only by degree.

I never argued for forced gun restrictions to reduce suicides.

 

[flenser]

I never argued for forced gun restrictions to reduce suicides.

You used suicide stats to show a pro gun state had a lot of gun related deaths. When I commented on that fact you defended those stats with additional stats on the success rates of suicide by gun. I don't know what other point you could have been trying to make. Anyway, I was just in the mood for an argument. You usually have more entertaining responses : )

 

[Docd187123]

You used suicide stats to show a pro gun state had a lot of gun related deaths. When I commented on that fact you defended those stats with additional stats on the success rates of suicide by gun. I don't know what other point you could have been trying to make. Anyway, I was just in the mood for an argument. You usually have more entertaining responses : )

I know what you were trying to go after lol....and you're supposed to be the calm sparrow lmao

My point is there needs to be some sort of balance between the right of a gun owner and the protection of innocent citizens. Gang bangers killing each other is what it is, but killing hard working, good people is different.

Like I mentioned previously, just bc my stance errs to one side more than the other does NOT mean I want to take away everyone's right to own a firearm. I'm not that fat whale Rosie lol. On the other hand, I'm also not opposed 100% to some legislation that might be effective but that also still maintains the right of the individual to own a gun(s).

About the suicide issue, the points I was making were just that, points. They were not THE reason just an added bonus