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HB180

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Here’s a little background info
19 years old, 190lbs, between 10% and 12% bf
I’m on my second cycle
Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Dianabol 40mg/ED
I am on week 3. I’m running the test for 12 weeks and the dbol for 2 weeks at 40mg and then 4 weeks at 20mg
Here’s where I need help. I’m a dumbass and started the cycle without any arimidex or letro and all I have is nolva at the moment. Just started getting sensitivity in my nips. I’m gonna stop the dbol until the arimidex comes in but I have seen around that some have had success with nolva and gyno any help would be appreciated. Also don’t know if it matters but i have puffy nips from puberty already and was planning ok getting the surgery sometime next year.
 
I'm not well liked here, but you've had no reply since yesterday, so here goes.

The anti-e of choice will depend on your gear, and I don't know much about that. If your issue is just test compounds aromatizing to estrogen, then some AI needs to be in the equation to bring estrogen down to normal. In any case, nolva is solid protection from estrogen at the tissue sites. It will prevent further gyno at an adequate dose (i only know the right dosage for me). What you do with your cycle or how to dovetail that into PCT is for these other dudes to say.
 
Welcome to Meso. Not smart to start a cycle without everything on hand. You need an AI to stop gyno, how long until you get arimidex?

And I wouldnt run dbol more than 4 weeks. 40mg a day is good for all 4 weeks.

Your going to get hate here for your age and that your already on your second cycle at 19. How long have you been training?
 
SuperMaroid said:
Welcome to Meso. Not smart to start a cycle without everything on hand. You need an AI to stop gyno, how long until you get arimidex?

And I wouldnt run dbol more than 4 weeks. 40mg a day is good for all 4 weeks.

Your going to get hate here for your age and that your already on your second cycle at 19. How long have you been training?
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Arimidex comes in within a week and with the dbol I’ll try that instead seems easier on the liver anyways but I’ve been lurking on these forums for a while and knew I’d get hate for being so young and to add to that didn’t start my cycle with all the stuff. I️ also got letro coming in as well
 
HB180 said:
Arimidex comes in within a week and with the dbol I’ll try that instead seems easier on the liver anyways but I’ve been lurking on these forums for a while and knew I’d get hate for being so young and to add to that didn’t start my cycle with all the stuff. I️ also got letro coming in as well
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Been working out for 5 years now first 2 were off and on and basically no help but the past 3 years I️ have been consistent and try to bust my ass in the gym daily.
 
HB180 said:
Been working out for 5 years now first 2 were off and on and basically no help but the past 3 years I️ have been consistent and try to bust my ass in the gym daily.
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Dude, take it from me. If you have a healthy HPTA with no issues, don't take that for granted. Be careful. Other shit matters more than that extra X pounds of gain. Women will wet themselves for a toned dude with a full head of hair and a job - and no tits. If you want to be a bodybuilder, that's one thing. If you have any other reason, it's prob not worth it. I hope you learn that sooner rather than later. Im no one to lecture but I envy your 19yo-life-not-fucked-up-yet ticket there.

I hope you get sorted out and through this cycle without issue, amigo.
 
HB180 said:
Arimidex comes in within a week and with the dbol I’ll try that instead seems easier on the liver anyways but I’ve been lurking on these forums for a while and knew I’d get hate for being so young and to add to that didn’t start my cycle with all the stuff. I️ also got letro coming in as well
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Wait for arimidex and start it when it comes. Only use when you have estrogen related sides.
 
Woden said:
Dude, take it from me. If you have a healthy HPTA with no issues, don't take that for granted. Be careful. Other shit matters more than that extra X pounds of gain. Women will wet themselves for a toned dude with a full head of hair and a job - and no tits. If you want to be a bodybuilder, that's one thing. If you have any other reason, it's prob not worth it. I hope you learn that sooner rather than later. Im no one to lecture but I envy your 19yo-life-not-fucked-up-yet ticket there.

I hope you get sorted out and through this cycle without issue, amigo.
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Becoming a bodybuilder is my main goal and that’s why I decided to start so young otherwise I would have stayed natty.
 
SuperMaroid said:
Wait for arimidex and start it when it comes. Only use when you have estrogen related sides.
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If I’m running 40mg nolva ed right now when should I stop. Was planning on doing 40mg ed until gyno symptoms are gone and then doing 20mg for 5 days afterz
 
Sorry for the bump.
Dbol without an AI is about the worst idea I've heard today.

Nolva can help with gyno, not the most common practice but it dose work at around 10-20mg.
 
Cramps88 said:
@Woden. Odinist? Asatru?
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@Cramps88
Neither. I learned about ancient Germanic culture researching my English ancestry, and I just really dig it. I’ve heard of those groups, but it seems like they’re either absurdly literal about the Aesir or, in a few cases, hideously racist - not to make a blanket judgment about strangers. How do you know about it? That’s kid of obscure.
 
Woden said:
@Cramps88
Neither. I learned about ancient Germanic culture researching my English ancestry, and I just really dig it. I’ve heard of those groups, but it seems like they’re either absurdly literal about the Aesir or, in a few cases, hideously racist - not to make a blanket judgment about strangers. How do you know about it? That’s kid of obscure.
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I actually learned about it in a similar fashion. I'm a practicing odinist yes but don't take it absurdly I literal. I enjoy the culture and morals of my ancestors and incorporate them into mine and my families lives. I've studied all of the sagas, the havamal, the elder futharc. In my home we celebrate the major holiday and I'm teaching my oldest right now about the traditions of her ancestors. We even celebrated Yule this year and I let her light the yule log which was cured Ashwood.
 
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