clean bulk

[dalac]

hey everyone, how’s it going? Im planning bulk cycle, anyone ran this before? any recommendations? experience?

stats, 90kg, 1.85, 9% bf

1-16 EQ 900/ew
1-18 Test E 500/ew
1-7 Tren H 200mg/ew

1-6 Drol 100mg/ed
10-16 Tbol 60mg/ed

1-25 Aromasim 25mg/eod
1-7 caber 0,5mg/e3d

22-25 HCG 1000ui/ew

21-26 PCT
clomid /50/25
nolvad /10

I ran tren e and a, never ran tren H before, should I change it to last 7 weeks like 9-16 or 1-7? what do you think?

regards

 

[Logan44551]

I would drop the oral at the end, your liver will be shot.

 

[Hawkins]

Not too bad IMO. Have you ran this many compounds together before? It's a little heavy on orals for me.

I think you're timing your pct right too.

 

[johntt44]

Don't need caber. Did you have blood work that showed high prolactin in the past? Especially with tren at 200mg a wk. I've done 3 high tren cycles(700,700,900)and my prolactin has been at the low end of normal range. That looks like a good cycle but a little heavy on the orals. Good luck!

 

[dalac]

Don't need caber. Did you have blood work that showed high prolactin in the past? Especially with tren at 200mg a wk. I've done 3 high tren cycles(700,700,900)and my prolactin has been at the low end of normal range. That looks like a good cycle but a little heavy on the orals. Good luck!

hello bro ty for the reply, yes I had very high prolactic in the past, 20.0 after high tren abuse, 1000mg of tren e weekly, that’s why I added caber, should I drop it for 200mg of tren that’s not much?

 

[CJames]

Raise up your test instake, it should be higher than eq.

 

[johntt44]

hello bro ty for the reply, yes I had very high prolactic in the past, 20.0 after high tren abuse, 1000mg of tren e weekly, that’s why I added caber, should I drop it for 200mg of tren that’s not much?

You won't need it but if it makes you feel better have some on hand.

 

[dalac]

Raise up your test instake, it should be higher than eq.

why should it be higher than eq?

 

[CJames]

why should it be higher than eq?

In order to stay healthier.

 

[ironwill1951]

16 weeks of tren dbol and tbol is way overkill you must really hate your liver.

 

[Eman]

In order to stay healthier.

Please elaborate how test dosage being higher than EQ dosage has anything to do with being healthier.

 

[CJames]

Please elaborate how test dosage being higher than EQ dosage has anything to do with being healthier.

Eq shuts down your testosterone level so you need more testosterone than other compounds in order to avoid health issues. I know testosterone e/a/..etc shuts down your own testosterone level but it keeps your test high so you need test in order to avoid low sex drive, fatigue...etc

Test plays a big role in a male body which it is so important to function normally.

 

[Eman]

Eq shuts down your testosterone level so you need more testosterone than other compounds in order to avoid health issues. I know testosterone e/a/..etc shuts down your own testosterone level but it keeps your test high so you need test in order to avoid low sex drive, fatigue...etc

Test plays a big role in a male body which it is so important to function normally.

You're incorrect. His testosterone does NOT need to be higher than his EQ dosage. He will encounter zero negative health effects due to what you're referring to. There is no reason that you need to obscurely have a higher test dosage than other compounds...

Testosterone is an important hormone in the male body, you're correct about that. But he will have AMPLE testosterone due to the supraphysiological dosage he's already taking. He could take half that dosage, less even, and still be fine...

 

[CJames]

You're incorrect. His testosterone does NOT need to be higher than his EQ dosage. He will encounter zero negative health effects due to what you're referring to. There is no reason that you need to obscurely have a higher test dosage than other compounds...

Testosterone is an important hormone in the male body, you're correct about that. But he will have AMPLE testosterone due to the supraphysiological dosage he's already taking. He could take half that dosage, less even, and still be fine...

Why don't you give it a shot? Try low testosterone, after two months pm about the side effects. I have tried it before and the side effects were fucking harsh, maybe its just me.

 

[Eman]

Why don't you give it a shot? Try low testosterone, after two months pm about the side effects. I have tried it before and the side effects were fucking harsh, maybe its just me.

Please explain to me how 500mg a week of test equates to low testosterone?

Your gear was bunk or it was a reaction to the compounds you were using, it had nothing to do with your test being "shut down" unless you were taking no test at all.

I would have zero problem running 250mg a week with a higher dose of any compound. I could run 150mg a week and have zero problem. Your argument is the epitome of broscience.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Eq shuts down your testosterone level so you need more testosterone than other compounds in order to avoid health issues. I know testosterone e/a/..etc shuts down your own testosterone level but it keeps your test high so you need test in order to avoid low sex drive, fatigue...etc

Test plays a big role in a male body which it is so important to function normally.

Really - you need more test (above the TRT level) if you add EQ on top?

I've run EQ much higher than my Test dose (which I don't take more than 200-300 per week of depending on TRT or cycle) and had no issues. AFAIK, you only "need" about 200 tops per week to keep your endocrine system running. You can layer various other steroids on top of that base without needing to adjust your test level.

Maybe there are some combinations that really rock the endocrine boat, but I've tried various combinations, all with similar test foundations, and never had problems. My experience.

 

[johntt44]

Eq shuts down your testosterone level so you need more testosterone than other compounds in order to avoid health issues. I know testosterone e/a/..etc shuts down your own testosterone level but it keeps your test high so you need test in order to avoid low sex drive, fatigue...etc

Test plays a big role in a male body which it is so important to function normally.

You only need natural test levels or slightly above to function(libido,erections,well being). After that its just extra and not necessary. The eq can be higher, it won't matter. Super high test levels are NEVER healthier than levels in normal range.