ok been having night sweats really bad. i was using tren so no big deal. but erections were few and far between. also got some gyno in BOTH tits. not hard lumps just loose fatty deposit.( actually got them years ago using synovex i didnt remove the estro. i listened to bill roberts way of converting then he posted he made a mistake on the process. eerrr) anyways no tren for months night sweats went away but still no erections. doc refuses to do estogen test but finally did prolactin. it was high. so high he sent me for mri to see if i had a tumor. he wont listen bout the chemicals i use. my test was only 99 when average was 77 to 690 ( im 53) but he wouldnt give me test so i though ah thats it no test no erection no libido. so i got test a few months later i was almost 3000!!! plenty high but still no erection. yes i can cum but erections dont last and are soft at best. im doing deca and dianabol now 300 mg deca and dball 40 mg a day. no injectable test for over a month now. for high prolactin im taking b6 vit e and zinc. i can cum 2 or 3 times a daybut still not hard enough. i have no energy no sexual desire still get night sweats depressed lack of mental focus forgetful ness etc. all signs of low or high estrogen!!! plus i still have gyno it may not be as bad but still there.going to new doc in 2 months hopefully he will listen. amy ideas on what i should try?
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no lumps. just a soft fatty deposit on both. and only when i flex. im not pron to gyno. but i got this when i did the synovex conversion as bill roberts originally said with just wesson oil to make 100 mg per ml. then after wards he said oops you can only do it at 50 mgs. but by then i had the estradial in me from the conversion. chest has stayed the same since and that was 9 years ago!! dball test etc doesnt give me gyno. im not even worried bout thatt anyways im worried bout dick function. no night wood no morning wood. my ankles used to swell so freakin bad from when i did the synovex but that hasnt happened in years. does estrogen ever get out of your system on its own? it didnt get there from aromatizing it was already in the synovex. so i dont even know if after all these years letro would help or nolva. was gonna run prami for prolactin ( it is high) and mayve letro for estro. i know tren or deca doesnt technically convert to estrogen but it does progesterine which will make the soft area under nipples waiting for estrogen to make it gyno or lactate. so im thinking use both to lower prolactin and estrogen. then if i lower estrogen to much just stop both use test and dball to get some conversion going and i should be fine prolactyin will be low and test and estrogen should be in line.
EcpertRealistic
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Seems like you are not controlling your estrogen at all. ED caused by high estrogen can take up to a month to improve after Estrogen is constantly controlled. And prolactin on top will make it even harder to get an erection.
Obviously you don't know what you are doing.
You need to stop throwing compounds without having the corresponding ancillaries and a plan to follow at least(if you don't have access to blood work)
Let's simplify it:
When you run Test or Dbol you must run a preventive amount or aromatase inhibitors. Obviously lab work can help you dial it perfectly but....
Don't run deca or tren too long without having caber or prami on hand and he prepared to drop the 19nor compound IMMEDIATELY if start to develop dysfunction. (Again lab can also point you in the right direction if prolactin start to increase)
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I would lower my estrogen/prolactin and drop all compounds and keep test at a trt dosage (100mgs-week) until you start seeing an improvement. Do not overdo AIs or Caber, if you drop high dosages and problematic compounds your E2 and Prolactin should fall in place within a week after starting medication(caber-asin)
Obviously you don't know what you are doing.
You need to stop throwing compounds without having the corresponding ancillaries and a plan to follow at least(if you don't have access to blood work)
Let's simplify it:
When you run Test or Dbol you must run a preventive amount or aromatase inhibitors. Obviously lab work can help you dial it perfectly but....
Don't run deca or tren too long without having caber or prami on hand and he prepared to drop the 19nor compound IMMEDIATELY if start to develop dysfunction. (Again lab can also point you in the right direction if prolactin start to increase)
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I would lower my estrogen/prolactin and drop all compounds and keep test at a trt dosage (100mgs-week) until you start seeing an improvement. Do not overdo AIs or Caber, if you drop high dosages and problematic compounds your E2 and Prolactin should fall in place within a week after starting medication(caber-asin)
Your post is so nonsensical it’s IMPOSSIBLE to determine a cause and effect relationship —— but rest assured that portion I’ve outlined is NOT the result of a HI/LOW E-2
Gbro
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Are you suffering from depression?
As I’ve mentioned on multiple occasions, it’s often what we are NOT told that grossly limits our ability to provide meaningful insight or assistance in cases such as the OP.
i said its the sign of BOTH low or high estrogen because they are both almost the same. look it up. and again let me say i have NEVER EVER had any issues ( night sweats ed soft tissue in chest etc all the things i said) UNTIL i used the synovex as bill roberts said. so with that being said i ingested alot of estogen cuz it was removed from the synovex. im 53 been using gear since 16 wihen we got it from doctors!!!i need to get estrogen blood work done. hopoefully new doc will do it. i have high prolactin and my test is very high. or it was. like i said ive stopped all test. just using low dose deca and dball at 40 mgs. ordering up clomid nolva letro and prami. BUT waitong till i see doctor to see if i get bloods. dont want to run estrogen to low . like i said the side effects of low e and high e are almost the same so i could treat high e (and i could really be low e) and really fuck myself up. also if my estrogen is high just lowering that would also lower prolactin. but since i kniow my prolactin is or was high ( ive ran prami a couple months agao) i might run prami again to see what hqappens
and yes the post you outlined has everything to do with high or low e. you need to read up a bit. not trying to be mean but to many self thinking experts giving out wrong advice. and yes i do suffer from depression but i do not take meds cuz they to increase prolactin and cause sexual side efects. again all this happened after using synovex as bill roberts said( it left way to much estrogen in )
Gbro
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You just told Dr Jim to read up? lmao
You have no blood work and you're just guessing at what the problem is. Every week some guy shows up with a limp dick and no blood work. You have untreated depression. It's always the same old song about estrogen. Get some blood work and figure out what is wrong.
You have no blood work and you're just guessing at what the problem is. Every week some guy shows up with a limp dick and no blood work. You have untreated depression. It's always the same old song about estrogen. Get some blood work and figure out what is wrong.
can you read? i said my doctor wouldnt test estrogen. ive switched doctors im waiting to see him and ask for the test smh. and yes estrogen causes depression. prolactin does too. im not a newbie. ive been on this site and others for years i was posting to get others ideas who MIGHT be knowledgeable about such things maybe have gone thru something similar. i dont convert to estrogen i dont do high amounts. what happened was i basically injected estrogen due to following bill roberts ill advice. so i had alot of estro floating around. simple enough?and yes i told this so called dr jim to read up obviously he doesnt have a clue about high and low estrogen. im not on here to bash anyone but come at me correct with correct answers please . yes i know i need a blood test. yes i know i need a blod test. yes i know i need a blood test. guess what? yes i know i need a blood test
Gbro
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The point here, that you keep missing, is you don't know if it's your estrogen or not. You haven't had it tested. And it's great to claim you "don't convert to estrogen", but you really have no way of knowing that.
Here's what we DO know- your doctor doesn't think it's estrogen related (hence he won't test), you have a doctor on here telling you it's not estrogen related, and this forum is full of limp dick stories that have nothing to do with estrogen.
I want you to get this resolved for your own benefit, but getting mad at folks for not telling you what you want to hear is pointless.
Here's what we DO know- your doctor doesn't think it's estrogen related (hence he won't test), you have a doctor on here telling you it's not estrogen related, and this forum is full of limp dick stories that have nothing to do with estrogen.
I want you to get this resolved for your own benefit, but getting mad at folks for not telling you what you want to hear is pointless.
heres what you DONT KNOW. my doctor never said he doesnt think its estrogen related.he just says that they dont test men for estrogen on testosterone. hes clueless about everything. i told him after i noticed how my ankles swelled really bad after this starting happening but thye didnt swell if i didnt eat carbs his response was dont eat carbs. yes im serious. it took him 2 years before he finally tested my prolactin cuz he kept saying they only test if he suspects a tumor( he kept pushing viagra on me saying thats what i needed) when my test was super low he wouldnt give me test said i was syill within range( yes if i was an 8 year old girl) he did an mri of my brain to check for a tumor after my prolactin came back high instead of listening to me about the tren etc. then he said the mri shows diminished blood flow to the brain sent me for a heart test etc, everything fine. so isaid what causes that he said i dont know. thats it nothing. no other discussion. also he said he wont treat prolactin unless theres a tumor. so see you dont mknow my doctor. so my doc is an idiot. he once told me he wished he had never became a doctor. anyways im not mad at folks on here or any other site. i just cant believe the ones who have no clue but still respond. smh
and like i said i dont convert ( maybe a tiny amount) i have never in over 30 years using have i ever gotten bitch tits fat accumulation mood swings hair loss etc. ive never used crazy amounts 500 test a week 50 dball a day. 300 tren a week 300 deca week. ( not all at the same time) im old school. a little goes a long way IF you train and eat. like i said everything was fine UNTIL i listened to bill roberts ( guru on tnation and other boards)
also to the person who posted i didnt know what im doing and that you have to run an ai as soon as you start using test or dball. your an idiot to think that way. everyone is different. depends on the person the dose the amount of time on etc. to start using as soon as you start using test or dball just hinders your gains. smh. where do you people come up with these ideas? run short cycles moderate doses take time off. never let your self get so shut down you need alot of help getting it back. thats been my point all along. ive never had problems till i ran the synovex.
Gbro
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I'm glad you're going to a new doctor. Good luck.
cerialkiller92
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That sucks man. A little insight would be to pull your bloods at a private lab. I really don't understand how you have been doing this since 16 as stated RX and not have a doctor take your bloods. Your medical records would obviously show the extent of AAS useage. I'm just very confused as when I go to doctor they almost always take blood
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