Primo vs deca in a growth phase

[Evom1]

I don't want to use the word bulk because I'm not focusing on pure scale weight if it's largely water and fat.

So given the option of either test and primo, or test and deca, which one would you choose while growing and why? Let's take cost out of the equation for this.

Which do you feel would yield the greatest amount of quality muscle growth?

I've been reading a bit and Jordan Peters seems to strongly favor Primo for growing.

I really have no experience with primo, the one time I tried it was some pcom stuff and the pip sucked so I didn't stick with it. I like how deca is zero pip no matter what brand I've used and I like the therapeutic effects on your joints. I've heard primo gives a different look tho

 

[tengtren]

I would opt for test primo and deca, I believe I've heard Jordan say he likes 1gtest 1gdeca 1gramEq (which imo primo and eq are pretty similar in the effect that they have) could be wrong though as I've never used primo

I've used the fuck out of eq and love it .
I am a big fan of Test eq deca for growing, my next growth phase I am planning to play with the test primo deca all at a 1:1:1 with 100tne 50inj dbol pwo 6 on 6 off

 

[barneys]

I don't want to use the word bulk because I'm not focusing on pure scale weight if it's largely water and fat.

I have no experience with primo because it's too expensive imo, but if you're focused on just quality muscle, I believe when run at equal doses, deca would be superior in putting on pure muscle (not fat and water).

I know anabolic ratings may not translate the same way in the real world as people respond differently to different compounds, but primo carries an anabolic rating of only 88, which makes it a pretty weak compound (at least on paper). Deca on the other hand has an anabolic rating of 125.

I've asked people who've ran both and they said primo is a waste of money. Primo is pretty expensive compared to Deca, so you will get better bang for buck with Deca.

 

[Roco Bama]

not only primo is pricey, it can't be dosed higher than 100mg/ml and you need to run it at no less than 700mg per wk. fuck that. I ain't got time to pin all that oil. I'll never consider primo in my life.

 

[barneys]

^ so true, Why would I consider primo when there's test, deca and tren?

 

[G.I. Bro]

^ so true, Why would I consider primo when there's test, deca and tren?

Pharmacom 200mg/ml primo is legit and pretty awesome. 600mg/wk with minimal oil volume. 400-600mg of real primo is adequate for most. Test/Primo is my favorite stack. Zero sides, no bloat. Great look. Nandrolone is cool too, but I think I prefer primo personally. Just a lot of crap UGL primo that's underdosed or primo that's eq or nandrolone.

If you're taking finasteride for hair protection, you can't take nandrolone. It's actually worse for hair as it won't metabolize the same and you end up with a hyper androgenic compound worse than MENT. That's a factor for many using finasteride.

Nandrolone finasteride combination increases androgenic side effects, not more effective

 

[Oldschool]

Test, npp and anadrol.

Done deal.

 

[Eman]

not only primo is pricey, it can't be dosed higher than 100mg/ml and you need to run it at no less than 700mg per wk.

That is false.

I would run both. I like the structure of using testosterone, a 19 nor and a DHT.

If cost is a concern I would just use the deca.

 

[Roco Bama]

That is false.

I would run both. I like the structure of using testosterone, a 19 nor and a DHT.

If cost is a concern I would just use the deca.

Up to how many mgs/ml can primo be dosed without crashing ?

 

[Eman]

Up to how many mgs/ml can primo be dosed without crashing ?

Depends. You could go higher than 200mg if you wanted... Might need to use a lot of solvents to get it to hold if you got too crazy with the dose but 200mg/ml isn't a problem at all.

 

[Monstar]

On a mg per mg, mg per ml, total ml, or dollar basis deca > primo for muscular gains. The only time you'd prefer primo is if you wanted completely dry, zero sides and money/dosage wasn't a factor. Deca can make a substantial effect at dosages where primo won't even be noticed. Not nuking primo as those that run it know all this and have different priorities but for muscular gains (lean or not) this is the deal.

Some people experience PIP with primo and more than a few feel that painless 200mg/ml is certainly fake (probably Equipoise but I don't have experience here - primo is heavily faked due to cost). Just be aware. Painless 200mg/ml would be gold and really cut inj volume.

 

[Ophydian]

Using 200/ml Primo from American Pharma with no issues.

 

[Robfromga]

Test, npp and anadrol.

Done deal.

I was going to post that . Tried and true combo .

 

[Iron Frenchie]

I’m in the same boat for bulking and can’t decide....
300mg Test E 1-12 wk
500mg Deca 1-12 wk
VS
300mg Test E 1-12 wk
900mg Primo E 1-12wk

 

[Ophydian]

I’m in the same boat for bulking and can’t decide....
300mg Test E 1-12 wk
500mg Deca 1-12 wk
VS
300mg Test E 1-12 wk
900mg Primo E 1-12wk

I’d extend both as Deca is a long ester and primo is relatively mild, to 16 weeks. I’ve also never inverted test deca as I’ve always been told test should be a considerable percentage higher than deca to reduce negative ED issues.

That said I have 0 personal experience with lower test to confirm.

 

[Monstar]

I’d extend both as Deca is a long ester and primo is relatively mild, to 16 weeks. I’ve also never inverted test deca as I’ve always been told test should be a considerable percentage higher than deca to reduce negative ED issues.

That said I have 0 personal experience with lower test to confirm.

I used to be able to run low test with deca or even no test. Today I need to keep test equal or above. Everyone is different and things can change. Weird but true.

 

[barneys]

I’m in the same boat for bulking and can’t decide....
300mg Test E 1-12 wk
500mg Deca 1-12 wk
VS
300mg Test E 1-12 wk
900mg Primo E 1-12wk

How about 300mg test e with 900mg Deca for 12 weeks?

 

[Savagesteve]

Up to how many mgs/ml can primo be dosed without crashing ?

Can be brewed at 200mg without eo (ran it from a ugl) and also confirmed with a very good home brewer here at Meso.

 

[Roco Bama]

Can be brewed at 200mg without eo (ran it from a ugl) and also confirmed with a very good home brewer here at Meso.

Are there any pip at 200mg ?

 

[barneys]

Can be brewed at 200mg without eo (ran it from a ugl) and also confirmed with a very good home brewer here at Meso.

Did you have it tested? Just because the label says so doesn't necessarily mean that the actual contents were 200mg/ml..

Im not saying it can't be made at 200mg/ml (honestly don't have that kind of brewing scientific knowledge regarding steroids), but how do you know for sure?