I was prescribed requip for the restless legs (those are the worst) and clonidine. These helped a lot. But it was not easy by any means.
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Anyone and Everyone...Input Needed!!! Easing the Pain of Withdrawals!!
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I always wished I could get put in a coma for 3 weeks till I'm totally done an then wake me back up
suck it up
. theres nothing else you can do. establish a baseline.granted, ive never been addicted to opiates. I have never experienced "physical" withdraw. but I do love me some stims. and having spent 3,5,7 days awake, my advice to get off drugs, it takes time. and it take a little "relearning" process, at least it has on my part.
drugs are to be used, not abused. but a lot of us do seem to fall into that trap.
Taking a ton of loperamide also with things for stomach acid will make it cross the bbb and it will also give you baddd withdrawls people get addicted to the shit so thats a definite no you will start back at square one. I went through dope withdrawls many times the only things that helped were benzos clonodine and the best thing that helped was lyrica but you dont want to take that for more than a few days
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That's for people who are trying to get high on Loperamide, which defeats the purpose of it's use for curbing withdrawal symptoms. If they're going to do that, might as well just use their drug of choice instead.
It's a fantastic way to kill withdrawal symptoms, but it needs to be used sparingly, and no monkeying with it's default inability to cross the blood brain barrier.
Exactly. Both of you are correct. I did a lot of reading on it. From what people say, if you use it only when absolutely necessary, it can be a Godsend. But as you guys said...there is a whole different can of worms you open up if you abuse it.
MisterSuperGod
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Absolutely. i remember reading a post on Blue Light years ago, where a guy got addicted to Loperamide.
He said that he was still feeling like shit months after getting off of it. Real scary stuff right there.
Yea only did it once when I was dopesick and it helped i ate 30 to 40 of em then did alil research and never again who would want to say they were addicted to fuckin immodium and i smoked crack and shot dope for years. I think if you used it it would be the same as doing a bag and start your withdrawls over. I think the best way is to suck it up and go through them clean without altering your mind anymore. If your not going that route then weed and benzos sparingly. ANd good luck brother I wouldnt wish withdrawls on my worst enemy
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This is the truth! WD sucks so bad. Worst pain of my life kicking heroin. Best of luck to anyone going through it right now. Get it over with before Xmas and the new year
valuum
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yeah, I mean, I personally don't see how you get addicted to lopermide. I am a total fucking fiend and I never had a problem not taking it. Even when I was sick I would often wait a long time to take it, yeah it helps... but not that much. You're still fucking miserable, just maybe well enough to barely go to work. Like they never provided enough relief for the addiction part of my brain to associate them with euphoria or happiness. I would feel kinda shitty on them too TBH so as soon as the withdrawals subsided enough I'd always stop.
Bro you seem like you have been where I'm at many times. Dude what did you do to get through the part after the physical withdrawals lifted. My body feels fine, but my fucking anxiety and the depression is crippling. I have to force myself to work out, when I'm at work all I can think about is either going home or using something to get through, and some days I have to tell my brain to put one foot in front of the other. It's been over 2 weeks...but inside my head I'm fucking miserable dude. I cant smoke and I cant use benzos because I'm on paper, and there's not an energy drink strong enough to push me through, and when I do drink enough caffeine I get even more anxious. Back when I kicked other shit, I wasnt on paper. So I always had benzos, weed, and drink. This time its straight hell going ct. Any suggestions?
It’s actually better to do it with nothing so you don’t cloud your judgement or give back to your addiction regardless of what the substance is you will find something to abuse. 2 weeks in is an accomplishment but you still have alittle ways to go to get your mind right it’s hard to muster up energy to do anything but working out or even walks is good and just take it literally one day at a time and stay as busy as possible idle time is the devils playground. I was a dope fiend and garbage head for 10’years it took me about 10 plus times to figure it out but when I was done I was done and rode all the waves to getting clean. There’s no easy way out of withdrawals but once you clear that wall there is no accomplishment like it you will be a free man
Feel free to contact me anytime I’m usually available and have kicked and withdrew from 95 percent of the drugs out there. Gotta go through hell to get to the other side brother but it’s worth it
valuum
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I usually had to kick in jail, I was more a binge user. I'd PLOW through dope then kick for a day or two, I'd also get arrested or have to go to rehab a lot so I rarely had long ass runs except for back in the day. I notice when you use anything for a LONG time you have that problem... the shitty "junkie limbo" I call it. Not sick but not well, ya know?
Unfortunately I feel like there's no way around it. You mentioned benzos and weed, I too have also tried this. The thought is that it doesn't hit the opi receptors so you should still recover right? For whatever reason it doesn't work exactly like that. I feel like the receptors hit are different but a lot of the results are the same, which prompts your brain to stop repairing... in my experience.
IMO Benzos and all that are best to get through days 1-4 of WD.
You gotta give it time dude, you're infinitely ahead of anyone else in this situation. Eating right and exercising will make you recover quicker and you're already doing that.
I've had experiences where I slowly got better, and that was nice because it was like every day was the best I had felt, ya know?
But I've also had times where over the course of like 24-48 hours I make a HUGE leap back to feeling normal. That happened with subs.
I would really be willing to bet you're about to cross a plateau. Then maybe another and you'll think "I feel normal now!" and shit will be good. It seems like after 20~ days you should feel normal. But then you'll have like 45-60 days clean and realize you weren't normal, you were like 90%, but NOW you're normal. Then you'll get another month and realize you werent... so on and so forth.
But the point in real quick you'll think you feel normal, which is enough to make life livable in my experience.
The only drug I would recommend that wouldn't set you back is Gabapentin or Lyrica.
Been starting to cut down on my kratom and do a taper myself
Thanks bro. The hardest part for me is work. I built my landscape company from the ground up...on Kratom. So all of that superman focus and energy is gone now. This time of year is when all of our properties get detailed, winter flowers get put in, and all of the properties get the beds mulched. We are commercial, so were talking 100s of flats of flowers...100s of yards of mulch. It's a ton of work, and I'm no longer superman. This is the hardest part. My guys have all been asking me wtf is wrong...the investors are as well. Sucks
Thank you so much man. That helps a lot. I've been looking into baclofen. It's a muscle relaxer...and its GABA-ergic. I've used it before to curb alcohol wd. It works...it gives a good energy...and was easy to drop. Maybe I'll try that...idk. maybe I'll just ride it out. The bonus in all this is that now my appetite is back and I'm getting big and have put on 6 lbs in two weeks...and, veins, and all.
My second to last run I used lyrica for the first few days and it worked miracles. Must be careful though you can get hooked on that too and it’s like kicking benzos and dope at the same time And it’s funny they had it labeled as non narcotic
It's because of it being a GABA and the receptors and pathways it acts on. I knew someone that was on a high dose of that stuff and just quit...not pretty.
Yea I always thought the physical withdrawal were the worst and they are shitty but when ur minds not right from withdrawals it’s fuckin brutal it feels like it will never end I would be afraid to even leave my Fuckin house cuz my mind was so batshit comin off of things. But 2 weeks in my man is an accomplishment just keep goin day by day gets better and better and there’s really no other option. My last run was fentanyl and i was kicking for over a month and mentally wasn’t right til about day 60 I thought it would never end but it always does just stick it out
valuum
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Honestly if work is the thing try a lil lope for like 2 or 3 days to get over the hump. That's literally EXACTLY how i describe lope. If you're in real WD it doesn't do shit, if you're just dealing with the aftermath it really still doesn't do much beyond -make you feel decent enough to work-. I felt it more physically. The thing is about 45 minutes after I'd take it I'd get bad stomach feelings, not exactly pain, it'd subside, then like 2 hours later it kicks in. This was taking stupid doses. Buy the big bottle and start out with maybe 30mg
