Making own transdermal

[Deleted member 59947]

Getting tired of needles, I’m making my own transdermal test and dht.

After some reading, I’ve come to the conclusion that Salvo by Iron Legion is the best carrier (opinions?), better than Phlojel.

My question is: what raw powder do I need to get to throw in the mix —> test with no esthers attached? Or Test P?

 

[CrispyRockClimber]

No ester I believe... so test, Tren ?? Not sure what else is available as a base?

 

[master.on]

Getting tired of needles, I’m making my own transdermal test and dht.

After some reading, I’ve come to the conclusion that Salvo by Iron Legion is the best carrier (opinions?), better than Phlojel.

My question is: what raw powder do I need to get to throw in the mix —> test with no esthers attached? Or Test P?

Test no ester will be better as it is slightly more water soluble (less insoluble) and is a smaller molecule to pass trough the skin stratum corneum.
But if you already have T prop that may work fine. Only bloodwork can tell.

More important is the vehicle used
most pharma transdermal formulations use ethanol (ethyl alcohol), propylene glycol, and preferably isopropyl myristate as penetration enhancers.


Table 4
Kinetics and composition of different transdermal testosterone formulationsa–c

Medication Absorption Duration Inactive ingredients
Androgel 1% Continuous – 10% bioavailable 5 days after achieving steady state Carbomer 980, ethyl alcohol 67.0%, isopropyl myristate, sodium hydroxide, purified water

Androgel 1.62% Continuous 48–72 hours Carbopol 980, ethyl alcohol, isopropyl myristate, sodium hydroxide, purified water

Axiron Reservoir of testosterone and octisalate 7–10 days after reaching steady state Ethanol, isopropyl alcohol, octisalate, and povidone

Fortesta Continuous 24–48 hoursd Propylene glycol, purified water, ethanol, 2-propanol, oleic acid, carbomer 1382, triethanolamine, and butylated hydroxytoluene

Testim 1% Sustained release – 10% bioavailable 24–48 hoursd Pentadecalactone, carbopol, acrylates, propylene glycol, glycerin, polyethylene glycol, ethanol (74%), tromethamine, purified water
Transdermal testosterone replacement therapy in men


Carbopol is a thickener, but it's tricky to use and it needs to be neutralized with Sodium hydroxide or triethanolamine.
Hydroxypropylmethyl cellulose HPMC, or Hydroxyethyl cellulose HEC work as good or better and thickeners, are easier to use and can be found in Ebay or Amazon.

 

[Morefyah]

Getting tired of needles, I’m making my own transdermal test and dht.

After some reading, I’ve come to the conclusion that Salvo by Iron Legion is the best carrier (opinions?), better than Phlojel.

My question is: what raw powder do I need to get to throw in the mix —> test with no esthers attached? Or Test P?

Salvo is awesome! I’ve made my own transdermal trestolone with trest acetate. Yes it was very effective. The thing is the salvo gets pretty expected.

I believe one gram of raws mixed with 1 bottle 30ml =25mg/ml. One 30ml salvo held 1.5 grams pretty easily 2 grams gets tricky

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Salvo is awesome! I’ve made my own transdermal trestolone with trest acetate. Yes it was very effective. The thing is the salvo gets pretty expected.

I believe one gram of raws mixed with 1 bottle 30ml =25mg/ml. One 30ml salvo held 1.5 grams pretty easily 2 grams gets tricky

What do you mean by « expected »

I’ve read report saying that up to 4 grams could be mixed in a 30ml bottle of salvo.

I would imagine that applies to testosterone, out of all chemicals it’s probably the most « solvable »

Which yields around 100mg/ml, hence around 30mg effectively absorbed.

 

[Morefyah]

Doh, typo expensive. No I don’t think you can get 4 grams to hold. Maybe if you dump it out and Into a beaker. I’ve always mixed it right in to the bottle. No way 4 grams is going in there even if you remove a lot of displaced salvo for xtra room. Like I said 2 grams worked best.

I probably have done this like 10 times.
So I have quite a bit of experience. I’m not sure how much more soluble Test ace is over trest ace.

 

[fldoms980]

Very interesting! Waiting for the day a UGL finally markets transdermals

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Doh, typo expensive. No I don’t think you can get 4 grams to hold. Maybe if you dump it out and Into a beaker. I’ve always mixed it right in to the bottle. No way 4 grams is going in there even if you remove a lot of displaced salvo for xtra room. Like I said 2 grams worked best.

I probably have done this like 10 times.
So I have quite a bit of experience. I’m not sure how much more soluble Test ace is over trest ace.

What form of testosterone do you recommend putting in there?
Base? Ace? Prop?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Very interesting! Waiting for the day a UGL finally markets transdermals

Why wait? Buy your raws from china and your carrier either salvo or phlojel and you’re good to go

 

[Morefyah]

What form of testosterone do you recommend putting in there?
Base? Ace? Prop?

I think Ace would work best.
You have to apply it daily anayway.
I’ve always wanted to try to make some transdermal tren ace. Maybe this summer.

 

[Roco Bama]

Getting tired of needles, I’m making my own transdermal test and dht.

After some reading, I’ve come to the conclusion that Salvo by Iron Legion is the best carrier (opinions?), better than Phlojel.

My question is: what raw powder do I need to get to throw in the mix —> test with no esthers attached? Or Test P?

Why do you take DHT are you a transgender ?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Why do you take DHT are you a transgender ?

Yes. And my fellow trans complained about the size of my shaft during our last swinging party so I want to up my game

 

[penche]

Yes. And my fellow trans complained about the size of my shaft during our last swinging party so I want to up my game

Pics?

 

[Supermansson11]

A buddy of mine will be making tren a. Transdermal as well,keep u posted on how it turns out.

 

[DeVille Papo]

Going to make DHB with Transdermal (1-Test Base)
Probably Test Base too

 

[Morefyah]

Going to make DHB with Transdermal (1-Test Base)
Probably Test Base too

I’ve never heard of 1- test Base
Source? Testing? The minimal IM dose is like 300mg to 500mg. Then you factor in conversion. Lol, you would have to cover yourself with that shit everyday.

No thanks...

 

[DeVille Papo]

Has anyone tried Boldenone Base? Saw that on some suppliers' lists. Should work with Salvo right?

 

[Morefyah]

That’s the difference with Trest. It’s so strong that you can make gains on 50-75mg of transdermal. I don’t think the same can be said with other raws

 

[DeVille Papo]

That’s the difference with Trest. It’s so strong that you can make gains on 50-75mg of transdermal. I don’t think the same can be said with other raws

Yeah I see what you mean. Tren Base would probably be badass too