High Estrogen on cruise but don't feel any side effects

[wallace]

fellas looking for input. I'm currently cruising at 250mg of test e per week. I got my blood work back and my estrogen was at 109.3ng/ml.

I've been running aromasin 10mg twice a week. Clearly that's not enough.

It's unusual because I thought my e2 was fine. I have no side effects, no itchy nipples or gyno. No problem getting an erection. Although I did notice lately my morning wood isn't there sometimes and my libido is def not high as it was. I know there are other sides from high e2 but just stating the biggest. I do sometimes feel like shit/depressed but I figured that was from stuff going on In my life currently.

Any input on what I should change my AI to per week and then go get another blood test?

Also my doctor dint even mention my high e2. For some reason on the lab result it says normal range is 60-190ng/ml. But I'm assuming that's for woman? Not sure how my doc missed the high e2. I've been reading for men it should be around 28ish

Any input appreciated. Thanks

 

[JackSmooth]

What was your testosterone at? Is this self administered trt?

 

[TheH0517]

fellas looking for input. I'm currently cruising at 250mg of test e per week. I got my blood work back and my estrogen was at 109.3ng/ml.

I've been running aromasin 10mg twice a week. Clearly that's not enough.

It's unusual because I thought my e2 was fine. I have no side effects, no itchy nipples or gyno. No problem getting an erection. Although I did notice lately my morning wood isn't there sometimes and my libido is def not high as it was. I know there are other sides from high e2 but just stating the biggest. I do sometimes feel like shit/depressed but I figured that was from stuff going on In my life currently.

Any input on what I should change my AI to per week and then go get another blood test?

Also my doctor dint even mention my high e2. For some reason on the lab result it says normal range is 60-190ng/ml. But I'm assuming that's for woman? Not sure how my doc missed the high e2. I've been reading for men it should be around 28ish

Any input appreciated. Thanks

Every test has a different range based on the method they use. Your E2 is right in the middle of the normal range according to that test. You’re good.

 

[Deadlifts4Life]

You can try aromasin EOD or every third day at 10mg. However it looks like for that test though you were in the normal range.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

You need to convert that number to pg/ml.

 

[The Terminator]

You need to convert that number to pg/ml.

That would equal 109,300 (109.3k) pg/ml lol

 

[wallace]

What was your testosterone at? Is this self administered trt?

Yes self admistered.

And ok thanks guys. I guess my e2 is in range. But I just got back my test level and it's not looking good.

Is this normal ? I got my bloods done 10 days weeks after a pin of 125mg of test e.

My test level came back at
90ng/dl and my free test 16.8pg/ml

I've been cruising/blasting for about a year. So I am definitely shut down. But this seems too low for test level 10 days after pinning 125mg???

Is my gear bunk ?
(My test was 250ng/dl before I started cruising a year ago)

 

[TheH0517]

What is the reference range for Test on your test?

 

[wallace]

What is the reference range for Test on your test?

Test 90ng/dl Range 250-1100ng/dl
Free test 16.8pg/ml range 35-155pg/ml


And the reason I dint pin in 10 days is because I was out of the country.

 

[TheH0517]

10 days should still have you at least in range.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

What company is the test from?

 

[wallace]

What company is the test from?

Ugl from here. Going to contact him before dropping names...

 

[wallace]

Update on this. My estrogen was actually 119pg/ml. And everywhere online says normal range for men is 10-40pg/ml for estrogen. Meaning I'm way out of range. I don't see how my lab results came back as in range. I think they must've used a female scale which put me in standard range.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Update on this. My estrogen was actually 119pg/ml. And everywhere online says normal range for men is 10-40pg/ml for estrogen. Meaning I'm way out of range. I don't see how my lab results came back as in range. I think they must've used a female scale which put me in standard range.

If your estrogen has been around 119pg/ml this whole time then yes it is way high and yes your doctors have been misreading it (malpractice) ....you need to set them straight that your a male ! (10-40 pg/ml)

 

[Burrr]

something is wack
test level is way low and somehow your estro is real high?
that does not compute

 

[Heavy Iron]

something is wack
test level is way low and somehow your estro is real high?
that does not compute

Perhaps a nandrolone? That can skew E2 right? I mean he would certainly know if his test was Tren lol. But yeah doesn't make sense at all...

@wallace who was the source or what did they say at least.

 

[wallace]

If your estrogen has been around 119pg/ml this whole time then yes it is way high and yes your doctors have been misreading it (malpractice) ....you need to set them straight that your a male ! (10-40 pg/ml)

Yeah My doctor is not very good looks like

something is wack
test level is way low and somehow your estro is real high?
that does not compute

That's what I don't understand either.

Perhaps a nandrolone? That can skew E2 right? I mean he would certainly know if his test was Tren lol. But yeah doesn't make sense at all...

@wallace who was the source or what did they say at least.

I was on tren 3-4 months before I got this blood work done.

My source said if I was running 200-250mg of test e a week then in two weeks of no pinning i should be back to shut down.

I'm just not sure why my estrogen dint also go down. Unless I had way higher levels of estrogen before.

I guess i need to up my AI to EOD. Unless I have bunk test and AI (both from the same source) lol.

 

[Heavy Iron]

I'm just not sure why my estrogen dint also go down. Unless I had way higher levels of estrogen before.

Perhaps. But also estrogen doesn't drop off like test does in terms of how fast it goes down. That's why when people run a PCT we take meds to help even out the ratio. Cause when test drops off and E2 is at a level that correlates with high level of test side effects occur (emotional, libido, energy). Here is a spoon if your AI isn't pharm grade. @pharmacist . This guy is great.

But still doesn't explain why test is so low and E2 is so high if you are administering test. Test could be bunk.... But the E2... Lol idk.

 

[wallace]

This explains why I feel like shit sometimes. But my libido an

Perhaps. But also estrogen doesn't drop off like test does in terms of how fast it goes down. That's why when people run a PCT we take meds to help even out the ratio. Cause when test drops off and E2 is at a level that correlates with high level of test side effects occur (emotional, libido, energy). Here is a spoon if your AI isn't pharm grade. @pharmacist . This guy is great.

But still doesn't explain why test is so low and E2 is so high if you are administering test. Test could be bunk.... But the E2... Lol idk.

Thanks for the input. I'm not sure either. I think I've been ignoring my AI dosage thinking I don't need as much. But after discovering this I'll be definitely be upping my dosage.

Any suggestions on what I should be running if I'm on 250 of test a week? I was thinking 12.5mg exemstane EOD.

When I was on 500mg of test i was actually doing 12.5mg eod and I still had high e2 on that so for 250mg of test I think 12.5 eod might work for me.

And thank you. I've used the phmarmacist before he's awesome. I switched this time bc my source also had an AI.

Will definitely get labs done in a month or so and see if my stuff is actually bunk

Thanks again

 

[wallace]

Side note anyone know if high e2 levels like mine would cause migraines. I've been having pretty painful constant headaches/migraines on the left side of my head especially when sleeping for a few months now. I thought it was from the test but after seeing my lab results nothing was really off other than my low test. Rbc count and blood pressure was good. I decided to get my eyes checked and got a Ct scan of the brain. Everything checked out.

Then I noticed a few days ago that on the days I took my AI my migraines wouldn't be that bad on that day. It's been 3 days that I've been taking AI 10mg exemstane everyday and the past 3 nights I've had no headache which is unusual because I've had them for months. Not sure if it's just a coincidence or not because I've also been told by my eye doctor to put drops in for my dry eyes. So I'm not sure if it's the drops that got rid of myigraines or it's my e2 levels dropping.