In pain 24/7

[Adam Zain]

Had taken a month of gear, coming of a dose of 400mg test, 400mg tren, at the end of the month I got blood work done. Before the blood work I injected an ml of of test e and and ml of deca.


Post blood work I took some dbol, few days later I got a dull ache in my stomach, which got worsen over time.


Decided to ditch dbol and switch for which was around 60mg Ed as a pose to 40mg Ed dbol.


Pain just worsened to the point I can’t do my daily activities. I’ve taken some Zantac, given that I assumed it’s gasterites, but haven’t got any major relief from it, a slight but could be due to placebo. I’ve completely stopped orals and it’s been 24 hours and the pain has not gone away.


In regards to the other issue I had injured my lower back a few months back the pain was only viable when I did certain pack excersises, and given my ignorance I did them regardless of the lower back pain when doing them. Form was correct.


However this time I think I messed it up real bad. It aches 24/7, no relief when laying down or walking, etc.. no idea if it’s just a bulged disc or something more serious.


Any input would be appriciated


Blood work link Ultimate Performance, 02 Feb 2019.pdf

 

[Xragexx]

Had taken a month of gear, coming of a dose of 400mg test, 400mg tren, at the end of the month I got blood work done. Before the blood work I injected an ml of of test e and and ml of deca.


Post blood work I took some dbol, few days later I got a dull ache in my stomach, which got worsen over time.


Decided to ditch dbol and switch for which was around 60mg Ed as a pose to 40mg Ed dbol.


Pain just worsened to the point I can’t do my daily activities. I’ve taken some Zantac, given that I assumed it’s gasterites, but haven’t got any major relief from it, a slight but could be due to placebo. I’ve completely stopped orals and it’s been 24 hours and the pain has not gone away.


In regards to the other issue I had injured my lower back a few months back the pain was only viable when I did certain pack excersises, and given my ignorance I did them regardless of the lower back pain when doing them. Form was correct.


However this time I think I messed it up real bad. It aches 24/7, no relief when laying down or walking, etc.. no idea if it’s just a bulged disc or something more serious.


Any input would be appriciated


Blood work link Ultimate Performance, 02 Feb 2019.pdf

Only thing I can comment on is your back pain. Pain is the body’s way of communicating there is a problem, i would listen to it. I’ve had two spinal fusions in my past. Back pain isn’t something to brush off or “tough” out. Get it checked out before you do more damage or even worse, permanent damage.

 

[weighted chinup]

You need much much more time off gear for health markers to normalize.

Talk to your GP about the back pain, and bring them the blood work too. I'm guessing you got the labs done privately, hence the detailed doctors comments on the report. Guessing you're also in the UK, which is all the more reason to talk to your family doctor. AAS use amongst young men isn't exactly unheard of over there, lol.

Contrary to popular bull-shit, doctors aren't ignorant of what is gear related and what isn't. More often then not they will be able to rule it out as a factor. I don't know about you, but the peace of mind is worth it.

Give yourself at least 6 months off everything, seriously man. Feeling like shit constantly is the number one indicator you've just been on too long.

 

[Adam Zain]

You need much much more time off gear for health markers to normalize.

Talk to your GP about the back pain, and bring them the blood work too. I'm guessing you got the labs done privately, hence the detailed doctors comments on the report. Guessing you're also in the UK, which is all the more reason to talk to your family doctor. AAS use amongst young men isn't exactly unheard of over there, lol.

Contrary to popular bull-shit, doctors aren't ignorant of what is gear related and what isn't. More often then not they will be able to rule it out as a factor. I don't know about you, but the peace of mind is worth it.

Give yourself at least 6 months off everything, seriously man. Feeling like shit constantly is the number one indicator you've just been on too long.

You need much much more time off gear for health markers to normalize.

Talk to your GP about the back pain, and bring them the blood work too. I'm guessing you got the labs done privately, hence the detailed doctors comments on the report. Guessing you're also in the UK, which is all the more reason to talk to your family doctor. AAS use amongst young men isn't exactly unheard of over there, lol.

Contrary to popular bull-shit, doctors aren't ignorant of what is gear related and what isn't. More often then not they will be able to rule it out as a factor. I don't know about you, but the peace of mind is worth it.

Give yourself at least 6 months off everything, seriously man. Feeling like shit constantly is the number one indicator you've just been on too long.

You need much much more time off gear for health markers to normalize.

Talk to your GP about the back pain, and bring them the blood work too. I'm guessing you got the labs done privately, hence the detailed doctors comments on the report. Guessing you're also in the UK, which is all the more reason to talk to your family doctor. AAS use amongst young men isn't exactly unheard of over there, lol.

Contrary to popular bull-shit, doctors aren't ignorant of what is gear related and what isn't. More often then not they will be able to rule it out as a factor. I don't know about you, but the peace of mind is worth it.

Give yourself at least 6 months off everything, seriously man. Feeling like shit constantly is the number one indicator you've just been on too long.

Is telling your doctor in the UK a smart idea? Wouldn’t it effect your health insurance with the NHS?

 

[ickyrica]

Is telling your doctor in the UK a smart idea? Wouldn’t it effect your health insurance with the NHS?

Hey, the other option is to wait it out and see. That's always a good idea when you have unrelenting abdominal pain, waiting it out.

 

[weighted chinup]

Is telling your doctor in the UK a smart idea? Wouldn’t it effect your health insurance with the NHS?

I live in a country with socialized medicine as well and I mention it every time I have a health issue that requires a doctor visit, never had any issues, never been treated like shit or given any funny looks.

AAS use is rampant in the UK right now, your doc won't care, and it won't affect your coverage.

There was a genius a while back on here who decided he knew better than someone who went to medical school and I believe he had some weird symptoms too. He goes to his doc, complains about his symptoms, doc does bloodwork, guy was taking orals in the recent past so LFT's were elevated. Doc was confused as fuck, dude didn't want to confess because like we established, he knew better, I believe the doc wanted to go so far as doing a liver biopsy LOL.

I don't know if any of that ever actually happened btw, I might have just made it up. Definitely, something to consider though.

But no, telling your gp won't get you in trouble with NHS or anything like that.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Had taken a month of gear, coming of a dose of 400mg test, 400mg tren, at the end of the month I got blood work done. Before the blood work I injected an ml of of test e and and ml of deca.


Post blood work I took some dbol, few days later I got a dull ache in my stomach, which got worsen over time.


Decided to ditch dbol and switch for which was around 60mg Ed as a pose to 40mg Ed dbol.


Pain just worsened to the point I can’t do my daily activities. I’ve taken some Zantac, given that I assumed it’s gasterites, but haven’t got any major relief from it, a slight but could be due to placebo. I’ve completely stopped orals and it’s been 24 hours and the pain has not gone away.


In regards to the other issue I had injured my lower back a few months back the pain was only viable when I did certain pack excersises, and given my ignorance I did them regardless of the lower back pain when doing them. Form was correct.


However this time I think I messed it up real bad. It aches 24/7, no relief when laying down or walking, etc.. no idea if it’s just a bulged disc or something more serious.


Any input would be appriciated


Blood work link Ultimate Performance, 02 Feb 2019.pdf

You are all over the place man.
First how long was you test/tren cycle?

4 weeks off? Really? Both are still in your system.

When did you decide it was a good idea to inject test/deca right before dr ordered blood work?

Then left and took dbol? I mean come on.

Then figured oh I’ll just take the dbol eod for some reason.

Now you have abdominal pains and think because you stopped dbol for 24hrs and the pain hasn’t gone away but got worse the dbol definitely wasn’t the problem?

Ok here’s the reality my friend. You obviously have no business taking steroids at this time. Your lack of knowledge is gonna severely back fire on you eventually.

1) stop everything!
2) go see a dr and tell him what your dumb ass did so you can be under care of a professional. Who cares about insurance if your dead it won’t matter.
3) after 6 weeks or so get baseline blood work assuming your not dead by then and don’t need a liver transplant.
4) meanwhile educate yourself more on proper cycling and possibly long term trt.
5) read read read facts not just bro science
6) of that’s you in your avi WTF are you doing taking all that shit anyway? Go back to basics test only and get your diet and training proper.

JMO Good luck

 

[Adam Zain]

The pain has decreased a lot today, so it was definitely the orals, had one giant fart this morning that lasted literally 30 fucking seconds. I’ve never had this problem before with orals, my pee was crystal clear. I guess the n acetyl cysteine helped. So I doubt it was hepatoxicity. If liver function is impaired symptoms are viable. In regards to coming off. I am on trt, doubt my test is ever coming back, in regards to coming off, the blood work showed no signs of tren use and ldl hdl levels would indicate that. Deca test was to see if the new brand I was using would show up on blood work, hence I decided to inject it before hand. Probably want that smart. Anyone not wanting to comment on high levels of

 

[Adam Zain]

High levels of creative kinase in my blood work? That’s what I’m most worried about.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Stop everything and slowly introduce your gear one by one so you know what the problem is. You still need more time off man. 4 weeks is nothing.

 

[Adam Zain]

Stop everything and slowly introduce your gear one by one so you know what the problem is. You still need more time off man. 4 weeks is nothing.

I’ve stopped the orals. No reason why I should stop the deca and test. Period. Has nothing to do with the back pain. The stomach pain was caused by orals.

 

[HIGHRISK]

I’ve stopped the orals. No reason why I should stop the deca and test. Period. Has nothing to do with the back pain. The stomach pain was caused by orals.

No but you’ve only had 4 weeks off from your last cycle.

 

[Gbro]

OP is retarded.

 

[Havah]

Get to a doctor
What the fuck is wrong with you

 

[MisterSuperGod]

The pain has decreased a lot today, so it was definitely the orals, had one giant fart this morning that lasted literally 30 fucking seconds. I’ve never had this problem before with orals, my pee was crystal clear. I guess the n acetyl cysteine helped. So I doubt it was hepatoxicity. If liver function is impaired symptoms are viable. In regards to coming off. I am on trt, doubt my test is ever coming back, in regards to coming off, the blood work showed no signs of tren use and ldl hdl levels would indicate that. Deca test was to see if the new brand I was using would show up on blood work, hence I decided to inject it before hand. Probably want that smart. Anyone not wanting to comment on high levels of

TRT at 19!?

Legit doctor/endo that you see face to face, TRT?
Wellness center that you found on the web, TRT?
i'm my own doctor, TRT?

Which are we dealing with here?

 

[Adam Zain]

I’ve stopped the orals. No reason why I should stop the deca and test. Period. Has nothing to do with the back pain. The stomach pain was caused by orals.

Get to a doctor
What the fuck is wrong with you

nah I die a soldier doctors gonna tell me to stop and that ain’t happening. I got goals to achieve. Only death can stop me motha fuckas

 

[Adam Zain]

TRT at 19!?

Legit doctor/endo that you see face to face, TRT?
Wellness center that you found on the web, TRT?
i'm my own doctor, TRT?

Which are we dealing with here?

My coming off is 189 test a week. Why not start trt early? Instead of coming off completely where your bloods just drop and then spike back up then drop which is not ideal in my opinion. Your going to be on trt anyways when your in your mid 35-40, even if you cycle on and off. I don’t see the point

 

[MisterSuperGod]

nah I die a soldier doctors gonna tell me to stop and that ain’t happening. I got goals to achieve. Only death can stop me motha fuckas

Oh, brother. If you live to see 40, come back here and reread your post. You'll realize just how asinine and short sighted what you just wrote really sounds.

Honestly speaking. You're just a kid and you have no business playing around with your hormones, but i know, i know, we're just a bunch of old timers that couldn't possibly help you with years of our own experiences. Probably because we'd tell you what you don't want to hear and clearly, homie ain't listening to none of that noise.

So, best of luck to you, bucko. Hope it's all worth it in the end.

 

[Adam Zain]

Oh, brother. If you live to see 40, come back here and reread your post. You'll realize just how asinine and short sighted what you just wrote really sounds.

Cheerio, no advice was given here only the one to stop gear, you know we ignorant children are not going to expose to that conceptualised conclusion, perhaps it’s the reason we chose to start gear? Accepted the risks were a particularly important conscious decision made by the user? Wouldn’t it be potent to help navigate the driver than to ban them from driving? Because there probably going to get a fake driving license so to speak.
Honestly speaking. You're just a kid and you have no business playing around with your hormones, but i know, i know, we're just a bunch of old timers that couldn't possibly help you with years of our own experiences. Probably because we'd tell you what you don't want to hear and clearly, homie ain't listening to none of that noise.

So, best of luck to you, bucko. Hope it's all worth it in the end.

 

[Gbro]