A Large Caution Regarding Highly Dosed Gear!

[EazyE]

I dont like to bash company's. I know I take a chance buying gear from the underground. We all do but dont pound your chest like you dont make mistakes. It could of been alot worse for me. My whole arm blew up was very warm. You can actually see the difference in color from one arm to the other. It started in shoulder then to my bicep and tricep then down to my elbow. They did a minor surgery on my should in the er because all the surgery rooms were full. Surgeon gave me a powerful painkiller in my iv I almost felt like I got hit with a bat when it hit didnt feel nothing just herd him cutting meat out to get to infection it was pretty deep I used I 1inch pin. Then he drained it and filled it will some white little cloth tape. Surgeon said whatever I injected was not sterilized and contained bacteria wich caused the infection due to the fact he had to cut down deep to even get to abscess nothing near the surface.I had to pull the tap out every morning clean it and stuff new tap back in to keep letting it drain while one antibiotics. Very bad experience. Now my shoulder has a big scar on it.

Terrible experience to go through. I have had cellulitis before. Caused me a lot of pain in one leg. Red, swollen and sore. Sure made my calf grow...
Can’t say for sure if it was gear-related. My doctor was not 100% convinced the cause was from a bad injection. But it may have been. At any rate, not fun stuff.

 

[Test_Subject]

I guess you can send it in for testing, right?? If it has impurities than that should suffice, at least you would think, but I do t see the issue they would probably want you to send the gear to them or a sample to them even after paying for it to be tested so they could test it themselves. When it is all said and done. All it takes is one test with results of impurity’s floating around to kill their business. So I would put together a game plan before laying your hand down for those fucks to see. If you do choose to go after the funds.

Yes, but if the vial's stopper has a hole in it (which it would if you had done a shot with it) that doesn't prove anything. Anyone could just contaminate a vial and collect ten grand.

The guarantee sounds great, but when you really think about it, it's an empty marketing strategy. The burden of proof on the consumer is too high for it to mean anything.

 

[88general88]

Yes, but if the vial's stopper has a hole in it (which it would if you had done a shot with it) that doesn't prove anything. Anyone could just contaminate a vial and collect ten grand.

The guarantee sounds great, but when you really think about it, it's an empty marketing strategy. The burden of proof on the consumer is too high for it to mean anything.

I hear yeah. I am just grateful that I never fucked with Pharmacom. Just trying to help homeboy brainstorm is all

 

[Test_Subject]

I hear yeah. I am just grateful that I never fucked with Pharmacom. Just trying to help homeboy brainstorm is all

No for sure -- it's worth a try. The worst that he'll get is a "no."

 

[Turbo charged]

A company with a false guarantee. No way to prove it. Sure we guarantee no abscess with out product oh you got one you must of did something wrong you got to be more careful sir. Fuck that I got the bottle and the remaining stuff let's agree on a third party to send it to for testing and let's go.

 

[88general88]

A company with a false guarantee. No way to prove it. Sure we guarantee no abscess with out product oh you got one you must of did something wrong you got to be more careful sir. Fuck that I got the bottle and the remaining stuff let's agree on a third party to send it to for testing and let's go.

That’s why I said, before taking a swing at them, I would organize a solid game plan. Play the tape through and look for loose ends. Because those tend to be the way guys like that end up slithering their way out of problems and false promises. Anyhow, I really do feel for you and even the people I dispose most in my life l, I wouldn’t wish that on them accesses are no joke. I almost lost an arm from one that ended up being MRSA years ago. So if anyone knows your pain it’s me.

 

[Turbo charged]

That’s why I said, before taking a swing at them, I would organize a solid game plan. Play the tape through and look for loose ends. Because those tend to be the way guys like that end up slithering their way out of problems and false promises. Anyhow, I really do feel for you and even the people I dispose most in my life l, I wouldn’t wish that on them accesses are no joke. I almost lost an arm from one that ended up being MRSA years ago. So if anyone knows your pain it’s me.

Thanks brother fuck the money I just want to protect my brothers. I contacted there support to discuss let's see were it goes. I am sure someone told them about this subject already but crickets from them.

 

[Turbo charged]

Here is there reply to this message. I PM pharmacom support.

Got a bad abscess from ur winstrol in shoulder arm blew up went to hospital had to get minor surgery and kept wound open for a week to drain. Stayed in hospital overnight. Have all documents from hospital proving this. Have a bad scare on shoulder now this happened on mother's day. How do u want to proceed there is a post on the steriod forum about it. I have all documents so do the right thing because I have proof

Hi, I don't understand, what's your question?

 

[EazyE]

Here is there reply to this message. I PM pharmacom support.

Got a bad abscess from ur winstrol in shoulder arm blew up went to hospital had to get minor surgery and kept wound open for a week to drain. Stayed in hospital overnight. Have all documents from hospital proving this. Have a bad scare on shoulder now this happened on mother's day. How do u want to proceed there is a post on the steriod forum about it. I have all documents so do the right thing because I have proof

Hi, I don't understand, what's your question?

Classic — playing the “I don’t understand “ card...

Good luck with this. Keep pushing back.

 

[Eman]

Here is there reply to this message. I PM pharmacom support.

Got a bad abscess from ur winstrol in shoulder arm blew up went to hospital had to get minor surgery and kept wound open for a week to drain. Stayed in hospital overnight. Have all documents from hospital proving this. Have a bad scare on shoulder now this happened on mother's day. How do u want to proceed there is a post on the steriod forum about it. I have all documents so do the right thing because I have proof

Hi, I don't understand, what's your question?

Have you gotten the gear tested?

You getting an abscess isn't really their problem unless the product is tainted, which it doesn't have to be to have an abscess happen.

 

[Turbo charged]

Have you gotten the gear tested?

You getting an abscess isn't really their problem unless the product is tainted, which it doesn't have to be to have an abscess happen.

Product is ready to go get tested to a party that we both can agree on. Waiting for there response. Surgeon said product was not clean infection was very deep. We can go back and forth and I won't. I ordered many times and inject every day. I am posting to protect you. I am injecting there test and deca never a issue. Using there test for a while took the oil base winstrol and all hell broke loose. So let's proceed with what they feel is the way to rectify this issue. But there answer is what ticked me off now

 

[Eman]

Product is ready to go get tested to a party that we both can agree on. Waiting for there response. Surgeon said product was not clean infection was very deep. We can go back and forth and I won't. I ordered many times and inject every day. I am posting to protect you. I am injecting there test and deca never a issue. Using there test for a while took the oil base winstrol and all hell broke loose. So let's proceed with what they feel is the way to rectify this issue. But there answer is what ticked me off now

I understand why you're posting about it. I'm just mentioning it because, unless you get it tested, there isn't really proof that it's pharmacom's problem. Even with testing it could be up for debate but it's a good start.

The frequency you inject really has no bearing here. If anything, injecting gear daily simply opens you up to more risk by increasing your exposure. Was it oil based or water based?

I hope you get it addressed in the best way possible, I'm not trying to go back and forth with you but I think it's important to avoid any leaps in logic. It'll help you and those that you're trying to protect.

 

[Turbo charged]

I understand why you're posting about it. I'm just mentioning it because, unless you get it tested, there isn't really proof that it's pharmacom's problem. Even with testing it could be up for debate but it's a good start.

The frequency you inject really has no bearing here. If anything, injecting gear daily simply opens you up to more risk by increasing your exposure. Was it oil based or water based?

I hope you get it addressed in the best way possible, I'm not trying to go back and forth with you but I think it's important to avoid any leaps in logic. It'll help you and those that you're trying to protect.

Thankyou it was the oil base bud

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Here is there reply to this message. I PM pharmacom support.

Got a bad abscess from ur winstrol in shoulder arm blew up went to hospital had to get minor surgery and kept wound open for a week to drain. Stayed in hospital overnight. Have all documents from hospital proving this. Have a bad scare on shoulder now this happened on mother's day. How do u want to proceed there is a post on the steriod forum about it. I have all documents so do the right thing because I have proof

Hi, I don't understand, what's your question?

Here's where i think you're going to get stonewalled on this.

You have proof that you had an infection.
Their reply: It was somehow the fault of your sterility practice or user error.

You still have the vial and want it tested.
Their reply: The vial has been opened and you could have knowingly or unknowingly contaminated it yourself.

You test it anyway and it comes back contaminated.
Their reply: We sell x number of vials per day/week/month. If this were true, there would be a rash of similar complaints here and on other forums.

Not that i don't believe you. i'm just giving you an example of how they or any other UGL would go about protecting themselves.

Out of curiosity. What do you feel needs to be done on their side to properly rectify this unfortunate situation?

 

[Turbo charged]

Here's where i think you're going to get stonewalled on this.

You have proof that you had an infection.
Their reply: It was somehow the fault of your sterility practice or user error.

You still have the vial and want it tested.
Their reply: The vial has been opened and you could have knowingly or unknowingly contaminated it yourself.

You test it anyway and it comes back contaminated.
Their reply: We sell x number of vials per day/week/month. If this were true, there would be a rash of similar complaints here and on other forums.

Not that i don't believe you. i'm just giving you an example of how they or any other UGL would go about protecting themselves.

Out of curiosity. What do you feel needs to be done on their side to properly rectify this unfortunate situation?

I feel that they should get the vial get tested by a third party testing facility a legitimate one I have more from the same batch un opened I can send that also if its contaminated pull the rest of the batch out inventory and dispose of so none of my other meso brothers receive them. Its oil base winny i am sure it's not that popular on ther selling list. I myself dont want anything. I know buying underground there is always a risk but when one of us sees a issue it's our duty to inform our brothers.

 

[TestiCult]

Just thought I'd add to the consensus. Any "test" product that is accurately dosed will definitely burn the ole ass cheeks at any does over 300mg/ml. I am surprised you didnt have a pseudo flu due to the BA and BB causing inflammation. This used to happen to me anytime I'd shoot the old school Denkall/Ausvet Test 400. Same shit, couldn't bend over, loss of appetite, dick harder than stale Grape Nuts etc... It's the fact that the producer has to use double the solvent to keep the crystalline powder dissolved in the solution. It does not happen with high dose EQ or Deca for some reason, just test products. And yes, I am old as f**k and some of you guys dont know what Denkall is lol.

Seriously just bite the bullet and load your syringe up when it comes to Test. We used to dilute our Test 400 with other oils (Denkandiol/Methandriol) and it helped with the PIP a lot.

Cheers, big ears!

 

[TestiCult]

P.S. .. Does anyone remember this bittersweet shite?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

P.S. .. Does anyone remember this bittersweet shite?

Denkall, QV, RBB, the original British Dragon and IP China...
Man, you're taking me down memory lane.

 

[TestiCult]

Denkall, QV, RBB, the original British Dragon and IP China...
Man, you're taking me down memory lane.

I was recently cleaning the garage and found some old empty T-T-T-Tokyo bottles from early 2000 as well. Denkall had the best stuff back then. You could taste the chems in your bloodstream a day after the shots lol.. I dont think anyone even bothers to make methandriol anymore.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Ive accomplished all I ever wanted with just 200/250mg per ml gear. Never understood why the high concentrates ? Just give yourself another pin if you feel you need more . The guys that have posted here about bad experiences with 400-500mg/ml gear would fill an auditorium . Dont do it unless you love PIP and ER visits....