THUN BIOTECH (EU)

You read enough to know that a couple of mouth breathing extortionists are running around, but you didn't read enough to know what would be expected from your intro?

For future sources, this is how NOT to start your business at Meso. Class dismissed.
 
Please tell me again how your UGL makes pharma gear...

pharma grade ≠≠ pharma gear

every pharmacy is able to produce medicine as they have the personell with the needed education, the equipment and the license. we miss the license as you miss the prescription to the drugs you use.
 
pharma grade ≠≠ pharma gear

every pharmacy is able to produce medicine as they have the personell with the needed education, the equipment and the license. we miss the license as you miss the prescription to the drugs you use.

Avoiding other questions will not go well.

Pics of lab with meso paper and date
Pics of stock with meso paper and date
Pics of raw stock with meso paper and date
 
pharma grade ≠≠ pharma gear

every pharmacy is able to produce medicine as they have the personell with the needed education, the equipment and the license. we miss the license as you miss the prescription to the drugs you use.

So if you miss the license, how is it Pharma grade?

You are Underground lab grade.
Saying anything else is just nonsense.

So I'm taking drugs legally × legal + Illegal ÷Legal = Legal?
So who graded your gear "Pharma Grade"
If you don't have an inspection report from an EU safety inspector, you arent Pharma grade.

Or do I just take your word for it?

Nope
 
Avoiding other questions will not go well.

Pics of lab with meso paper and date
Pics of stock with meso paper and date
Pics of raw stock with meso paper and date

There will be no picture of the lab as stated. You did see the Vial that states MESO and the date? Are you implying some paper is more scam- or photoshop-proof than a photographed 3d-vial with a printed label or is this just you being in teacher mode unable to digress from "the way we always did this"?
 
So then comes here to make the SAME intro? o_O

Perhaps it was a trainwreck over there and it will be a trainwreck here.

As SST got caught pants down after their Mod gave Olympia Labs a "g2g" while he failed miserably here on MESO (under your vetting) and even faked lab tests they are now trying to be "above MESO" with their rules and deleted our thread without any notice or message. Later they explained we were not using the "proper channels". You can read about it in this thread: Why was the new EU source deleted?
 
So if you miss the license, how is it Pharma grade?

You are a native english speaker, are you?

Merriam-Webster lists grade as:

grade noun
2 a : a class of things of the same stage or degree

Like i said, if a pharmacy is producing medicine for you it is of course pharma grade. Otherwise they wouln't be allowed to sell it to you. But there is no individual licensing involved or some state actor testing every product. They simply have qualified personell and the needed equipment and expertise.
Thats exactly what we are doing.
 
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You are a native english speaker, are you?

Merriam-Webster lists grade as:

grade noun
2 a : a class of things of the same stage or degree

Not too bright are you?

Talking shit to your potential customers and proving that you can't keep your cool under the most miniscule amount of pressure is going to be your downfall. Well, that and this shitty intro.

i could only imagine how aggressive your response to a customer with a legitimate issue would be. Thankfully i'll never find out.
 
You are a native english speaker, are you?

Merriam-Webster lists grade as:

grade noun
2 a : a class of things of the same stage or degree

Like i said, if a pharmacy is producing medicine for you it is of course pharma grade. Otherwise they wouln't be allowed to sell it to you. But there is no individual licensing involved or some state actor testing every product. They simply have qualified personell and the needed equipment and expertise.
Thats exactly what we are doing.

Actually English is my second langauge.
Nice try.

English is OBVIOUSLY not your first language.

Let me try this again Who graded it to be the same as pharma.
Was it You?
I am supposed to just take your word for it?


So you are now an EU grader.
Excellent, good to know we have a licensed EU inspector who created a UGL.

You are trying to use langauge to hide your bullshit.
You may use the same METHODS as pharma, but it is NOT pharma grade.

How are you not understanding this.

No state licensed people to confirm it?
Are you serious?
Ever heard of safety inspectors?
I've worked at Pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities. (Construction within the plants)

There are inspectors that come in all the time, are you serious?
 
There will be no picture of the lab as stated. You did see the Vial that states MESO and the date? Are you implying some paper is more scam- or photoshop-proof than a photographed 3d-vial with a printed label or is this just you being in teacher mode unable to digress from "the way we always did this"?

So you are just a re seller then? No pic of any kind was seen with a piece of crumpled paper that had meso and date wrote on it.

The only pic that someone said they seen was a picture that looked photoshopped. I don’t click links so if the pic is not in the thread I won’t see it.

And, “the way we always did this” has worked for us for some time now.

So post pics or GTFO.
 
Actually English is my second langauge.
Nice try.

English is OBVIOUSLY not your first language.

Let me try this again Who graded it to be the same as pharma.
Was it You?
I am supposed to just take your word for it?


So you are now an EU grader.
Excellent, good to know we have a licensed EU inspector who created a UGL.

You are trying to use langauge to hide your bullshit.
You may use the same METHODS as pharma, but it is NOT pharma grade.

How are you not understanding this.

No state licensed people to confirm it?
Are you serious?
Ever heard of safety inspectors?
I've worked at Pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities. (Construction within the plants)

There are inspectors that come in all the time, are you serious?

Not trying to bust your balls. Asking if english is your native language was a real question as things get lost in translation easily and we ourselves are obviously not native english speakers.

As stated in our intro we work in a real lab, and guess what a real lab in Germany and Switzerland means. Right, certification and qualified personell.

Let me put it this way: as you said you are working in construction lets say you alone work after hours without the construction company knowing and you are doing exactly the same you do when you work for them just for your own profit. Is this work then the exact same construction grade you put out every day or is it construction-wise worse as it was illicit?
 
So you are just a re seller then? No pic of any kind was seen with a piece of crumpled paper that had meso and date wrote on it.

The only pic that someone said they seen was a picture that looked photoshopped. I don’t click links so if the pic is not in the thread I won’t see it.

And, “the way we always did this” has worked for us for some time now.

So post pics or GTFO.

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Not trying to bust your balls. Asking if english is your native language was a real question as things get lost in translation easily and we ourselves are obviously not native english speakers.

As stated in our intro we work in a real lab, and guess what a real lab in Germany and Switzerland means. Right, certification and qualified personell.

Let me put it this way: as you said you are working in construction lets say you alone work after hours without the construction company knowing and you are doing exactly the same you do when you work for them just for your own profit. Is this work then the exact same construction grade you put out every day or is it construction-wise worse as it was illicit?

Yes, it is the exact same work.

However, a city official or a P.Eng must sign off on my structural work and inspect before allowing a permit to be closed or or occupancy to be issued.
These documents must be filed with the Region/area municipality etc before I can get a sign off for a job well done.
I could go on about commissioning and training before a job is considered "complete and certified" but I think you get my point.

Much like an inspector must sign off on safety and qaulity before a facility that produce "Pharma Grade"

My issue is with ANYONE who says a UGL is pharma grade.

Saying "we all work in a lab and understand the procedures and equipment required to produce a product that is the same qaulity (in our opinion) as pharmaceutical companies make"
would be accurate.
Pharma grade is not.

If you've done your research, you would know that anyone who claims "Pharma grade" gets chased out of Meso.

This is a harm reduction board.
I dont want newbies thinking your stuff is Pharma... it's not.
 
Yes, it is the exact same work.

However, a city official or a P.Eng must sign off on my structural work and inspect before allowing a permit to be closed or or occupancy to be issued.
These documents must be filed with the Region/area municipality etc before I can get a sign off for a job well done.
I could go on about commissioning and training before a job is considered "complete and certified" but I think you get my point.

Much like an inspector must sign off on safety and qaulity before a facility that produce "Pharma Grade"

My issue is with ANYONE who says a UGL is pharma grade.

Saying "we all work in a lab and understand the procedures and equipment required to produce a product that is the same qaulity (in our opinion) as pharmaceutical companies make"
would be accurate.
Pharma grade is not.

If you've done your research, you would know that anyone who claims "Pharma grade" gets chased out of Meso.

This is a harm reduction board.
I dont want newbies thinking your stuff is Pharma... it's not.

I get your point. Everyone not having a license to produce pharmceuticals which includes not only the education but also the equipment is unable to produce pharma grade. And as i stated, we do produce pharma grade. I can't get any more specfic. But yes, you have to take our word for it because there won't be any certificate uploads for obvious reasons.

I actually don't think that people care that much if it is really pharma grade or someone posturing. They either assume it is real pharma like Bayer or UGL. There is no semi-pharma variety in their minds that sits between these two.
Our products are not official® Pharma™ products© if thats what you needed to hear. They are above and beyond the competition though - at least in our opinion.
 
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